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Offline VisuddhiRaptor

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Re: Could use a little advice for a newbie
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2017, 10:36:37 pm »
Emotions are not taught as a part of the 12 Nidanas that you cited.  More properly it's birth that gives rise to ignorance.

Contrary to this, the suttas state:

1. Ignorance gives rise to birth.

2. Primal emotions ('asava') are part of ignorance because when ignorance prevails, 'emotions' (asava) continue to flow out of the ignorant mind.

3. Ignorance builds other 'emotions', which particularly manifest from 'craving'.

The quotes may help learn exactly what the Buddha taught:

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And what is dependent co-arising? From ignorance as a requisite condition come fabrications. From fabrications as a requisite condition comes consciousness. From consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-&-form. From name-&-form as a requisite condition come the six sense media. From the six sense media as a requisite condition comes contact. From contact as a requisite condition comes feeling. From feeling as a requisite condition comes craving. From craving as a requisite condition comes clinging. From clinging as a requisite condition comes becoming. From becoming as a requisite condition comes birth. From birth as a requisite condition, then aging & death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair come into play. Such is the origination of this entire mass of stress & suffering. SN 12.2

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There are three taints (asava): the taint of sensual desire, the taint of becoming and the taint of ignorance. With the arising of ignorance there is the arising of the taints.... With the arising of the taints there is the arising of ignorance.... MN 9

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Bhikkhus, this is said: ‘A first point of ignorance, bhikkhus, is not seen such that before this there was no ignorance and afterward it came into being.’ Still, ignorance is seen to have a specific condition. I say, bhikkhus, that ignorance has a nutriment; it is not without nutriment. And what is the nutriment for ignorance? It should be said: the five hindrances. AN 10.61

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he Blessed One said: "Not knowing, not seeing the eye as it actually is present; not knowing, not seeing forms... consciousness at the eye... contact at the eye as they actually are present; not knowing, not seeing whatever arises conditioned through contact at the eye — experienced as pleasure, pain, or neither-pleasure-nor-pain — as it actually is present, one is infatuated with the eye... forms... consciousness at the eye... contact at the eye... whatever arises conditioned by contact at the eye and is experienced as pleasure, pain, or neither-pleasure-nor-pain.

For him — infatuated, attached, confused, not remaining focused on their drawbacks — the five clinging-aggregates head toward future accumulation. The craving that makes for further becoming — accompanied by passion & delight, relishing now this & now that — grows within him. His bodily disturbances & mental disturbances grow. His bodily torments & mental torments grow. His bodily distresses & mental distresses grow. He is sensitive both to bodily stress & mental stress.

MN 149

Offline The Artis Magistra

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Re: Could use a little advice for a newbie
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2017, 08:05:13 pm »
Haha, I think you may find your biggest struggle will be maintaining the good state you are in as a newcomer and avoiding becoming a more prune-like oldcomer, hardened and dried, bereft of all the good qualities you have now.

My advice to you, is to maintain your enthusiasm and vigor, keep investigating, keep reading, but more importantly, keep on being good, keep on doing good, keep on thinking about things and what is going on. Keep being sensitive, keep on keeping track on your behavior, start being nicer and nicer to animals, insects, flowers, inanimate objects, people too.

Don't lose what you have now, and don't get deeply involved in the works of the disputers except if you come to know how to use them advantageously for yourself, because they too are serving you.

This is the story of you and how you became enlightened, make it a good one.

 


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