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How to advance further?
« on: November 08, 2017, 09:11:02 am »
Last time, i asked a question here, it got answered in like 9 hours. Great community, thank you  :). I have been studying buddhism for a few months, and i do know some of the basics now: Four noble truths, eightfold path, 3 poisons, 3 jewels etc. But the problem is: i want to know more.

Buddhism is a HUGE religion. And by HUGE, i mean HUUUUUUGE. Pali canon itself has 13 000 (???) pages (as far as i know), and mahayana much more. There must be more wisdom and basic knowledge and teachings than i know, and there is. There is a lot.

Watching Youtube videos and reading this forum has been a great help, but usually the videos only explain the very basics (the ones i already know) or are far too complicated (for me at least).
And so is this forum: not knowing much about buddhism and being here, reading all of this, is like wandering in a forest without map or compass. I need someone to tell me more basic (and perhaps lil' bit advanced) info, teachings and knowledge of buddhism. If you have time, please leave some on the comments :)

Peace  :buddha:





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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 09:39:50 am »
Last time, i asked a question here, it got answered in like 9 hours. Great community, thank you  :). I have been studying buddhism for a few months, and i do know some of the basics now: Four noble truths, eightfold path, 3 poisons, 3 jewels etc. But the problem is: i want to know more.

Buddhism is a HUGE religion. And by HUGE, i mean HUUUUUUGE. Pali canon itself has 13 000 (???) pages (as far as i know), and mahayana much more. There must be more wisdom and basic knowledge and teachings than i know, and there is. There is a lot.

Watching Youtube videos and reading this forum has been a great help, but usually the videos only explain the very basics (the ones i already know) or are far too complicated (for me at least).
And so is this forum: not knowing much about buddhism and being here, reading all of this, is like wandering in a forest without map or compass. I need someone to tell me more basic (and perhaps lil' bit advanced) info, teachings and knowledge of buddhism. If you have time, please leave some on the comments :)

Peace  :buddha:

This where a teacher comes in.   The teacher acts as a guide as to what steps should be taken and when.

You might find having a teacher  kinda boring, though.  Most will instruct new students to practice instead of study.  It follows the notion that practice is more important than study and practice can get really boring (but that's kinda the point).

Guidance is often based on disposition, capacity and so on.  What's best for one will not be so good for another.   A teacher may have you study comentaries rather than sutras.  That sort of thing..

Are you close to a sangha?

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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2017, 09:58:08 am »
Last time, i asked a question here, it got answered in like 9 hours. Great community, thank you  :). I have been studying buddhism for a few months, and i do know some of the basics now: Four noble truths, eightfold path, 3 poisons, 3 jewels etc. But the problem is: i want to know more.

Buddhism is a HUGE religion. And by HUGE, i mean HUUUUUUGE. Pali canon itself has 13 000 (???) pages (as far as i know), and mahayana much more. There must be more wisdom and basic knowledge and teachings than i know, and there is. There is a lot.

Watching Youtube videos and reading this forum has been a great help, but usually the videos only explain the very basics (the ones i already know) or are far too complicated (for me at least).
And so is this forum: not knowing much about buddhism and being here, reading all of this, is like wandering in a forest without map or compass. I need someone to tell me more basic (and perhaps lil' bit advanced) info, teachings and knowledge of buddhism. If you have time, please leave some on the comments :)

Peace  :buddha:

This where a teacher comes in.   The teacher acts as a guide as to what steps should be taken and when.

You might find having a teacher  kinda boring, though.  Most will instruct new students to practice instead of study.  It follows the notion that practice is more important than study and practice can get really boring (but that's kinda the point).

Guidance is often based on disposition, capacity and so on.  What's best for one will not be so good for another.   A teacher may have you study comentaries rather than sutras.  That sort of thing..

Are you close to a sangha?
Thanks for the info!

No, i am not too close to a sangha, and i am super shy (i have difficulties talking with people) so that's why i am here in this forum :DD

Could you give some advice?

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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 01:50:30 pm »
Last time, i asked a question here, it got answered in like 9 hours. Great community, thank you  :). I have been studying buddhism for a few months, and i do know some of the basics now: Four noble truths, eightfold path, 3 poisons, 3 jewels etc. But the problem is: i want to know more.

Buddhism is a HUGE religion. And by HUGE, i mean HUUUUUUGE. Pali canon itself has 13 000 (???) pages (as far as i know), and mahayana much more. There must be more wisdom and basic knowledge and teachings than i know, and there is. There is a lot.

Watching Youtube videos and reading this forum has been a great help, but usually the videos only explain the very basics (the ones i already know) or are far too complicated (for me at least).
And so is this forum: not knowing much about buddhism and being here, reading all of this, is like wandering in a forest without map or compass. I need someone to tell me more basic (and perhaps lil' bit advanced) info, teachings and knowledge of buddhism. If you have time, please leave some on the comments :)

Peace  :buddha:

This where a teacher comes in.   The teacher acts as a guide as to what steps should be taken and when.

You might find having a teacher  kinda boring, though.  Most will instruct new students to practice instead of study.  It follows the notion that practice is more important than study and practice can get really boring (but that's kinda the point).

Guidance is often based on disposition, capacity and so on.  What's best for one will not be so good for another.   A teacher may have you study comentaries rather than sutras.  That sort of thing..

Are you close to a sangha?
Thanks for the info!

No, i am not too close to a sangha, and i am super shy (i have difficulties talking with people) so that's why i am here in this forum :DD

Could you give some advice?

Yes.  Three things:

1.)  Get some counseling for your shyness.  It's not natural or healthy to be as shy as you say.
2.)  Find a teacher.
3.)  After this don't take advice about the path from anyone online.

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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 06:37:36 pm »
before we go recommending therapy:


4. how old are you?



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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 11:09:28 pm »
When you have studied all scriptures and fallen for one or many of so called 'teachers' eventually you will find out that all these studies and so called 'teachings' of so called 'teachers' are completely useless and futile since the very idea of advancement, the idea of becoming, is what conceals that there is no ground on which anyone may advance.  :fu:

But for the time being there may be no way other than to cultivate error.


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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 11:28:55 pm »
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Yes.  Three things:

1.)  Get some counseling for your shyness.  It's not natural or healthy to be as shy as you say.
2.)  Find a teacher.
3.)  After this don't take advice about the path from anyone online.

Especially item 3 is interesting: 'after this' is to ensure that once you have taken this wrong advice given online you stay on this wrong path.   :fu:


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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2017, 02:17:38 am »
Last time, i asked a question here, it got answered in like 9 hours. Great community, thank you  :). I have been studying buddhism for a few months, and i do know some of the basics now: Four noble truths, eightfold path, 3 poisons, 3 jewels etc. But the problem is: i want to know more.

Buddhism is a HUGE religion. And by HUGE, i mean HUUUUUUGE. Pali canon itself has 13 000 (???) pages (as far as i know), and mahayana much more. There must be more wisdom and basic knowledge and teachings than i know, and there is. There is a lot.

Watching Youtube videos and reading this forum has been a great help, but usually the videos only explain the very basics (the ones i already know) or are far too complicated (for me at least).
And so is this forum: not knowing much about buddhism and being here, reading all of this, is like wandering in a forest without map or compass. I need someone to tell me more basic (and perhaps lil' bit advanced) info, teachings and knowledge of buddhism. If you have time, please leave some on the comments :)

Peace  :buddha:


1. Are there any schools of Buddhism or approaches to practice that particularly appeal to you?
2. Are there any local Buddhist centres or groups you could visit?  The Buddhanet directory might be helpful:  http://www.buddhanet.info/wbd/

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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2017, 12:08:54 pm »
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Yes.  Three things:

1.)  Get some counseling for your shyness.  It's not natural or healthy to be as shy as you say.
2.)  Find a teacher.
3.)  After this don't take advice about the path from anyone online.

Especially item 3 is interesting: 'after this' is to ensure that once you have taken this wrong advice given online you stay on this wrong path.   :fu:

I thought I gave him pretty damned good advice.

1.) if he's as shy as he says and it's getting in the way of building personal relationships , then he should get counseling.

2.)  For advice about how to progress along the path, a teacher is essential. 

3.) There is no one on this board qualified to give that sort of advice.

 

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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2017, 06:47:38 am »
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Yes.  Three things:

1.)  Get some counseling for your shyness.  It's not natural or healthy to be as shy as you say.
2.)  Find a teacher.
3.)  After this don't take advice about the path from anyone online.
I am sorry if you are so offended of people being different, some are good at talking with people, some are not.
Especially item 3 is interesting: 'after this' is to ensure that once you have taken this wrong advice given online you stay on this wrong path.   :fu:

I thought I gave him pretty damned good advice.

1.) if he's as shy as he says and it's getting in the way of building personal relationships , then he should get counseling.

2.)  For advice about how to progress along the path, a teacher is essential. 

3.) There is no one on this board qualified to give that sort of advice.

 
I am sorry if you are offended by the fact that we are all different. Maybe one day you will understand it (:
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2017, 06:53:08 am »
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Yes.  Three things:

1.)  Get some counseling for your shyness.  It's not natural or healthy to be as shy as you say.
2.)  Find a teacher.
3.)  After this don't take advice about the path from anyone online.
I am sorry if you are so offended of people being different, some are good at talking with people, some are not.
Especially item 3 is interesting: 'after this' is to ensure that once you have taken this wrong advice given online you stay on this wrong path.   :fu:

I thought I gave him pretty damned good advice.

1.) if he's as shy as he says and it's getting in the way of building personal relationships , then he should get counseling.

2.)  For advice about how to progress along the path, a teacher is essential. 

3.) There is no one on this board qualified to give that sort of advice.

 
I am sorry if you are offended by the fact that we are all different. Maybe one day you will understand it (:

Not offended in the least.  You asked for advice.  I gave you very good advice.  Maybe one day you'll understand it ;-)

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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2017, 06:55:11 am »
Okay, so there have been many questions in this thread. I think it's great, now i can answer some of them :D

1. I don't really like the idea of telling my age to a stranger on the internet, but let's just say that i am not 18 just yet

2. When i was a kid, i was diagnosed with ADHD, but i was very different from the most adhd people. I think i might have 2 personalities actually: somedays i am so energic, talk loud and fast and people around me get tired of it. Then there are days when i can't talk to people, i just be alone in corner. I should get help, i will get help, not just yet. I have been very depressed and even suicidal, that's one of the reasons i wanted to get into buddhism in the first place.

3. Closest sangha is 250km away, so yeaah, no.

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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2017, 06:32:16 pm »
And so is this forum: not knowing much about buddhism and being here, reading all of this, is like wandering in a forest without map or compass. I need someone to tell me more basic (and perhaps lil' bit advanced) info, teachings and knowledge of buddhism. If you have time, please leave some on the comments

Friend

Buddhism actually starts with the student rather than the teacher because the teachings are given according to the needs of the student. Therefore, it is the role of the student to ask questions.

This being said, the 8 fold path covers all of the basic teachings, which are divided into three groups or trainings, namely, morality, concentration & wisdom. Importantly, the 8 fold path has one goal, namely, the end of suffering.

Therefore, whatever Buddhist schools exist (such as Mahayana , which believes in reincarnation & benevolent gods/Bodhisattva), to be a Buddhist teaching it must have the goal to end suffering.

Kind regards  :namaste:

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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2017, 09:10:52 pm »
Okay, so there have been many questions in this thread. I think it's great, now i can answer some of them :D

1. I don't really like the idea of telling my age to a stranger on the internet, but let's just say that i am not 18 just yet

2. When i was a kid, i was diagnosed with ADHD, but i was very different from the most adhd people. I think i might have 2 personalities actually: somedays i am so energic, talk loud and fast and people around me get tired of it. Then there are days when i can't talk to people, i just be alone in corner. I should get help, i will get help, not just yet. I have been very depressed and even suicidal, that's one of the reasons i wanted to get into buddhism in the first place.





1. fair enough :) ...but yeah, you are not even 18. You're just a kid. It's normal to be that shy at that age. I  still am, to some degree, and I am 33. :)

2. having ups and downs like that is also perfectly normal. there is nothiing wrong with you.  :headbow:

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Re: How to advance further?
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2017, 03:55:02 am »
Okay, so there have been many questions in this thread. I think it's great, now i can answer some of them :D

1. I don't really like the idea of telling my age to a stranger on the internet, but let's just say that i am not 18 just yet

2. When i was a kid, i was diagnosed with ADHD, but i was very different from the most adhd people. I think i might have 2 personalities actually: somedays i am so energic, talk loud and fast and people around me get tired of it. Then there are days when i can't talk to people, i just be alone in corner. I should get help, i will get help, not just yet. I have been very depressed and even suicidal, that's one of the reasons i wanted to get into buddhism in the first place.

3. Closest sangha is 250km away, so yeaah, no.



Hi Leeben,

There's nothing wrong in having  difficulties,  just take things slowly , there's no rush.

Have a look at this basic outline of Buddhism, it might be helpful for you.

http://santacittarama.altervista.org/e_buddhism.htm


With kind wishes,

Pixie





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