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Re: New Student Questions
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2018, 06:35:35 pm »
Directing your gratitude somewhere is like putting legs on a snake: a totally unnecessary complication.  Just be grateful.  You don't have to deliver it anywhere.

Doesn't sound like what the Buddhist scriptures teach. It sounds like Judaism; being grateful to "G_D".

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The Blessed One said, "Now what is the level of a person of no integrity? A person of no integrity is ungrateful & unthankful. This ingratitude, this lack of thankfulness, is advocated by rude people. It is entirely on the level of people of no integrity. A person of integrity is grateful & thankful. This gratitude, this thankfulness, is advocated by civil people. It is entirely on the level of people of integrity."

"I tell you, monks, there are two people who are not easy to repay. Which two? Your mother & father. Even if you were to carry your mother on one shoulder & your father on the other shoulder for 100 years, and were to look after them by anointing, massaging, bathing, & rubbing their limbs, and they were to defecate & urinate right there [on your shoulders], you would not in that way pay or repay your parents. If you were to establish your mother & father in absolute sovereignty over this great earth, abounding in the seven treasures, you would not in that way pay or repay your parents. Why is that? Mother & father do much for their children. They care for them, they nourish them, they introduce them to this world. But anyone who rouses his unbelieving mother & father, settles & establishes them in conviction; rouses his unvirtuous mother & father, settles & establishes them in virtue; rouses his stingy mother & father, settles & establishes them in generosity; rouses his foolish mother & father, settles & establishes them in discernment: To this extent one pays & repays one's mother & father."

Kataññu Suttas: Gratitude https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an02/an02.031.than.html

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Re: New Student Questions
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2018, 10:01:29 pm »
conceit, a capricious monster
a weight that's tied to me
grateful for the Dhamma
Eightfold Path to unbind



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Re: New Student Questions
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2018, 07:06:06 am »
Directing your gratitude somewhere is like putting legs on a snake: a totally unnecessary complication.  Just be grateful.  You don't have to deliver it anywhere.

Doesn't sound like what the Buddhist scriptures teach. It sounds like Judaism; being grateful to "G_D".

Of course!  Why didn't the rest of see that!

and what is .....

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"G_D"

.... LeetSpeak for "GunderscoreD"?

Is that a word found in Buddhist scripture? 

It sure is a comfort knowing that we have someone on this board who's smarter and better than the rest of us.

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Re: New Student Questions
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2018, 04:26:59 pm »
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Re: New Student Questions
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2018, 09:14:57 pm »
1- The god concept is not to be rejected any more than anything else is to be rejected. Enlightenment mind is not god concept any more than it is chocolate bar or monkey's ear.

2- Praying is praying to our inner potential. As Bodhidharma is said to have said "By worshipping (external Buddhas) you come under the spell of devils. Buddha is your own mind, don't misdirect your worship"

3- Gratitude is to your own good actions of the past which have produced the human rebirth endowed with the opportunity to hear and practice Buddha Dharma and gratitude to those who assist you on the path. Keep it up.

I'm new to this site and don't know what to expect from others but I will dodge what is fatuous and give my best to genuine discussion.

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Re: New Student Questions
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2018, 09:42:35 am »
“Fatuous” indeed!  Welcome paracelcus. If you live up to your namesake you’re unlikely to avoid controversy.

I hope Gray Cloud is still floating around here to read your pointed responses.
My first formal meditation training was with Shunryu Suzuki in the 60's and later with Kobun, Robert Aitken and many other teachers (mainly zen). However, I've spent the most time practicing on my own, which is all I do now. I'm living in a rather isolated area so I miss connecting with other practitioners. Despite my interest in zen I've made an effort to remain secular. You can visit my website at http://www.frogzen.com

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Re: New Student Questions
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2018, 08:41:28 pm »
“Fatuous” indeed!  Welcome paracelcus. If you live up to your namesake you’re unlikely to avoid controversy.

I hope Gray Cloud is still floating around here to read your pointed responses.

Hello Zafrogen, thank you for your welcome.

I think you mistake me for the Egg born Phillippus. A. T. Bombastus von Hohenhelm.

I am not he, but take my name from the lead character in Robert Brownings interminable poem "Paracelsus", one verse of it which appears (unattributed) on Page 8 of Dwight Goddard's "A Buddhist Bible" (pub 1970), one of my earliest compendiums of Buddhist writings. I have some reservations about the verse but love the use of language.

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I hope for everyone's sake that my posts don't become equally interminable.

 


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