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Offline Arkena

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My problem...
« on: September 25, 2018, 04:46:56 am »
Hi,

So what i am finding is that i have a tendency to intellectualise and over complicate things, so when i learn about grasping i start to feel aversion for grasping and of my desires as start to equate them with grasping...when i only grasp sometimes and other times a desire is a healthy expression of your individual makeup.

Its allmost like the more i read the more i become disconnected from simple mindfulness and become involved in over analysing and my conceptual mind revving up a gear.

Im sure the Zen practitioners with their "teaching of no teaching" will have something interesting to say on this. To the other schools i say...how do i not let the buddhist teachings fuel my tendencies to over intellectualise and just let them make my wisdom grow?

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Re: My problem...
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2018, 06:28:00 am »
Hi,

So what i am finding is that i have a tendency to intellectualise and over complicate things, so when i learn about grasping i start to feel aversion for grasping and of my desires as start to equate them with grasping...when i only grasp sometimes and other times a desire is a healthy expression of your individual makeup.

Its allmost like the more i read the more i become disconnected from simple mindfulness and become involved in over analysing and my conceptual mind revving up a gear.

Im sure the Zen practitioners with their "teaching of no teaching" will have something interesting to say on this. To the other schools i say...how do i not let the buddhist teachings fuel my tendencies to over intellectualise and just let them make my wisdom grow?

You meditate.

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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2018, 12:11:36 pm »
Vipassana 10 week course starting soon...sounds like i need it mate  ;D

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Re: My problem...
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2018, 01:54:01 am »
Im sure the Zen practitioners with their "teaching of no teaching" will have something interesting to say on this. To the other schools i say...how do i not let the buddhist teachings fuel my tendencies to over intellectualise and just let them make my wisdom grow?

A lot of us think too much.  One method is to label thoughts as "thoughts" or "thinking", that can have a calming effect.  Also reflect that thoughts are just thoughts, they come and go like birds in the sky.
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Re: My problem...
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2018, 01:18:13 am »
I have the same problem as the owner of the forum.

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Re: My problem...
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2018, 10:48:28 am »
I have the same problem as the owner of the forum.

Care to be more specific?

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Re: My problem...
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2018, 09:03:55 am »
You gotta be kidding. That high, as opposed to a natural samadhi, is accompanied by an equally intense down. The friends I knew who did meth ended up living on the street with no teeth. They're likely dead and gone by now.
My first formal meditation training was with Shunryu Suzuki in the 60's and later with Kobun, Robert Aitken and many other teachers (mainly zen). However, I've spent the most time practicing on my own, which is all I do now. I'm living in a rather isolated area so I miss connecting with other practitioners. Despite my interest in zen I've made an effort to remain secular. You can visit my website at http://www.frogzen.com

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Re: My problem...
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2018, 09:33:06 am »

Teeth are overrated. You can purée anything. What is samadhi? That a type of weed I haven’t tried yet?





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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2019, 08:31:48 pm »
Keep it simple with just Zen.
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2019, 08:47:44 pm »
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2019, 09:43:50 am »
maybe
 

I'm looking at the Mind/body problem of the 20th century philosophers.
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2019, 05:31:06 pm »
maybe
 

I'm looking at the Mind/body problem of the 20th century philosophers.

Are you responding to a particular post here?

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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2019, 09:33:59 am »
maybe
 

I'm looking at the Mind/body problem of the 20th century philosophers.

Are you responding to a particular post here?

Everything in general.
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2019, 04:54:51 pm »
     I have OCD, which is best summarized as constant, involuntary thoughts and ideas that persist throughout the day. So I understand where you're coming from, I hope.

But what I've found is that the more you consider yourself separate from the woes of the material world, the less pressure you'll feel on those things.

Consider in the wider scope whether or not those things hold any significance. And then assign significance where you see fit.

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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2019, 03:50:52 am »

I'm looking at the Mind/body problem of the 20th century philosophers.

If you are looking at Western philosophers then you need to start with the Greeks, although most consider Descartes to be the first modern philosopher to raise this problem in the 17th century. I guess you are interested with how this impinges on Buddhist ideas about dualism?
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