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Title: My problem...
Post by: Arkena on September 25, 2018, 04:46:56 am
Hi,

So what i am finding is that i have a tendency to intellectualise and over complicate things, so when i learn about grasping i start to feel aversion for grasping and of my desires as start to equate them with grasping...when i only grasp sometimes and other times a desire is a healthy expression of your individual makeup.

Its allmost like the more i read the more i become disconnected from simple mindfulness and become involved in over analysing and my conceptual mind revving up a gear.

Im sure the Zen practitioners with their "teaching of no teaching" will have something interesting to say on this. To the other schools i say...how do i not let the buddhist teachings fuel my tendencies to over intellectualise and just let them make my wisdom grow?
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Chaz on September 25, 2018, 06:28:00 am
Hi,

So what i am finding is that i have a tendency to intellectualise and over complicate things, so when i learn about grasping i start to feel aversion for grasping and of my desires as start to equate them with grasping...when i only grasp sometimes and other times a desire is a healthy expression of your individual makeup.

Its allmost like the more i read the more i become disconnected from simple mindfulness and become involved in over analysing and my conceptual mind revving up a gear.

Im sure the Zen practitioners with their "teaching of no teaching" will have something interesting to say on this. To the other schools i say...how do i not let the buddhist teachings fuel my tendencies to over intellectualise and just let them make my wisdom grow?

You meditate.
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Arkena on September 25, 2018, 12:11:36 pm
Vipassana 10 week course starting soon...sounds like i need it mate  ;D
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Dairy Lama on September 29, 2018, 01:54:01 am
Im sure the Zen practitioners with their "teaching of no teaching" will have something interesting to say on this. To the other schools i say...how do i not let the buddhist teachings fuel my tendencies to over intellectualise and just let them make my wisdom grow?

A lot of us think too much.  One method is to label thoughts as "thoughts" or "thinking", that can have a calming effect.  Also reflect that thoughts are just thoughts, they come and go like birds in the sky.
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: JohnWick7 on October 03, 2018, 01:18:13 am
I have the same problem as the owner of the forum.
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: meez on October 03, 2018, 10:48:28 am
I have the same problem as the owner of the forum.

Care to be more specific?
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: zafrogzen on November 03, 2018, 09:03:55 am
You gotta be kidding. That high, as opposed to a natural samadhi, is accompanied by an equally intense down. The friends I knew who did meth ended up living on the street with no teeth. They're likely dead and gone by now.
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Pixie on November 03, 2018, 09:33:06 am

Teeth are overrated. You can purée anything. What is samadhi? That a type of weed I haven’t tried yet?


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Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Zen44 on January 13, 2019, 08:31:48 pm
Keep it simple with just Zen.
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Zen44 on January 13, 2019, 08:47:44 pm
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Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Zen44 on January 14, 2019, 09:43:50 am
maybe
 

I'm looking at the Mind/body problem of the 20th century philosophers.
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Chaz on January 14, 2019, 05:31:06 pm
maybe
 

I'm looking at the Mind/body problem of the 20th century philosophers.

Are you responding to a particular post here?
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Zen44 on January 15, 2019, 09:33:59 am
maybe
 

I'm looking at the Mind/body problem of the 20th century philosophers.

Are you responding to a particular post here?

Everything in general.
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: PlaidBear on January 15, 2019, 04:54:51 pm
     I have OCD, which is best summarized as constant, involuntary thoughts and ideas that persist throughout the day. So I understand where you're coming from, I hope.

But what I've found is that the more you consider yourself separate from the woes of the material world, the less pressure you'll feel on those things.

Consider in the wider scope whether or not those things hold any significance. And then assign significance where you see fit.
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: stillpointdancer on January 16, 2019, 03:50:52 am

I'm looking at the Mind/body problem of the 20th century philosophers.

If you are looking at Western philosophers then you need to start with the Greeks, although most consider Descartes to be the first modern philosopher to raise this problem in the 17th century. I guess you are interested with how this impinges on Buddhist ideas about dualism?
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Zen44 on January 16, 2019, 10:49:45 am

I'm looking at the Mind/body problem of the 20th century philosophers.

If you are looking at Western philosophers then you need to start with the Greeks, although most consider Descartes to be the first modern philosopher to raise this problem in the 17th century. I guess you are interested with how this impinges on Buddhist ideas about dualism?

Yes, to philosophize (ie.) Beginning to explain.
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: Zen44 on January 16, 2019, 01:09:11 pm
We All have this basic and concrete problem.  :dharma:
Title: Re: My problem...
Post by: stevie on April 17, 2019, 11:01:06 pm
Hi,

So what i am finding is that i have a tendency to intellectualise and over complicate things, so when i learn about grasping i start to feel aversion for grasping and of my desires as start to equate them with grasping...when i only grasp sometimes and other times a desire is a healthy expression of your individual makeup.

Its allmost like the more i read the more i become disconnected from simple mindfulness and become involved in over analysing and my conceptual mind revving up a gear.

Im sure the Zen practitioners with their "teaching of no teaching" will have something interesting to say on this. To the other schools i say...how do i not let the buddhist teachings fuel my tendencies to over intellectualise and just let them make my wisdom grow?

Dear Arkena,

maybe if one is biased towards intellectualising it may be a good idea to start with practices that work with emotionality? E.g. practice the four immeasurables.
I think that in the end intellect and emotionality have to be integrated somehow.  If one is biased towards the intellect and the intellect is not pervaded by a positive and impartial attitude towards others then that may have negative effects and be an obstacle on the path.
In the same way if someone is biased towards emotionality and this emotionality is not pervaded by wisdom - for the development of which the intellect is required - then that may have negative effects and be an obstacle on the path as well.
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