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The hidden meaning behind the Buddha's title, the "Tathagata"
« on: January 19, 2010, 03:40:58 am »
The Buddha referred to himself (and to other Buddhas) as the Tathagata.

This word has its basis in the word Tathata, which means Thusness, Suchness, as-is-ness.  With regards to Tathata, "There is nothing, yet there is something" - notes Ajahn Amaro in Broad View Boundless Heart p 67.

Now notice, that when you say the word "Tathagata", you can divide this word up in 2 ways:
Tatha - agata: which means Thus Come
Tatha - gata:  which means Thus Gone (definitions from The Digha Nikaya, Maurice Walsh translation p46.)

So the Buddha was really skillful with his play on words because it means both:
-  The Thus Come One (e.g., one who has come to Thusness, one who is completely here) and
-  The Thus Gone One (e.g., one who has gone to Thusness, one who is completely gone)

So you could say that the Buddha was someone who was totally present, yet totally transcendent.  This means that was one who lived perfectly in the everyday world/conventional reality (with perfect restraint), yet at the same time, he completely transcended this conventional world to realize ultimate reality (perfect letting go).

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Re: The hidden meaning behind the Buddha's title, the "Tathagata"
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2010, 12:11:38 am »
So you could say that the Buddha was someone who was totally present, yet totally transcendent.  This means that was one who lived perfectly in the everyday world/conventional reality (with perfect restraint), yet at the same time, he completely transcended this conventional world to realize ultimate reality (perfect letting go).

Or .. in other words: he realized the meaning of dependent origination he himself taught and integrated this realization with his being (an experiencing subject).

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« Last Edit: January 21, 2010, 12:13:23 am by TMingyur »

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Re: The hidden meaning behind the Buddha's title, the "Tathagata"
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 02:40:04 pm »
Tathagata and arhant.
Tathagata being the completly awakened enlightened one, arhant being the one free from samsara a liberated one.
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