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Re: The Middles of the Middle Way - going beyond post-/householdermodern
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2017, 03:00:23 am »
When exactly did the Buddha 'recommend' pursuing pleasant practice? What were those 'pleasant' practices?

The Buddha recommended pleasant practices in his 1st sermon, namely, the cultivation of jhana.

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Cultivation of jhana was definitely recommended by the Buddha. What made me doubt was the usage of the word 'pleasant practice' mentioned to contrast with 'painful practice'. In this context, 'pleasant practice' can be taken for practices of gaining pleasure ... which can also mean sensual pleasures. That's why the question was to clarify what 'pleasant practices' meant and what sort of practices did the Buddha recommend.

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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2017, 03:08:47 am »
The question was meant for seeking clarifications on a point that sounded a bit ambiguous. It would have sufficed to clarify the meaning of the word 'pleasant practices', Samana.

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Re: The Middles of the Middle Way - going beyond post-/householdermodern
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2017, 03:48:55 am »
Atma is sure that his, Rahuls, nissaya or connected, or together, will point that out well, in a way you have fun with it and maybe more "funny" if you seek for a monk- puppet to make the show perfect.



If not finding, don't worry, there are enough here liking to participate in your evil entertainment.

Now enjoy the fruits and laugh a little on the success you had, or start to train to bear the fruits, because they will be heavy. As you prefer.

Aside that you can function as perfect objects for training equanimity for some on the level to do such, one may be reminded:

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And what are the fermentations to be abandoned by avoiding? There is the case where a monk, reflecting appropriately, avoids a wild elephant, a wild horse, a wild bull, a wild dog, a snake, a stump, a bramble patch, a chasm, a cliff, a cesspool, an open sewer. Reflecting appropriately, he avoids sitting in the sorts of unsuitable seats, wandering to the sorts of unsuitable habitats, and associating with the sorts of bad friends that would make his knowledgeable friends in the holy life suspect him of evil conduct.
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Re: The Middles of the Middle Way - going beyond post-/householdermodern
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2017, 03:13:45 pm »
Cultivation of jhana was definitely recommended by the Buddha. What made me doubt was the usage of the word 'pleasant practice' mentioned to contrast with 'painful practice'. In this context, 'pleasant practice' can be taken for practices of gaining pleasure ... which can also mean sensual pleasures. That's why the question was to clarify what 'pleasant practices' meant and what sort of practices did the Buddha recommend.

Certainly, friend Rahul.

I do recall various suttas where two kinds of pleasure are referred to, namely, sensual & non-sensual. Whether some of these suttas are termed in terms of 'practise' I will need to research.

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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2017, 05:25:04 am »
Aside of the fact, that you Rahul, out of your intention, out of unwholesome mindstate, out of simply disrespect, will not gain much from the answer, since it cannot be expected, that Rahul could be tamed, has even intention to get tamed...

Oh dear... :eek: :bigtears:
Well some can directly perceive other peoples mind states and others cannot.  :teehee:

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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2017, 05:37:26 am »
When exactly did the Buddha 'recommend' pursuing pleasant practice? What were those 'pleasant' practices?

The Buddha recommended pleasant practices in his 1st sermon, namely, the cultivation of jhana.

 :namaste:

Cultivation of jhana was definitely recommended by the Buddha. What made me doubt was the usage of the word 'pleasant practice' mentioned to contrast with 'painful practice'. In this context, 'pleasant practice' can be taken for practices of gaining pleasure ... which can also mean sensual pleasures. That's why the question was to clarify what 'pleasant practices' meant and what sort of practices did the Buddha recommend.
I'd say the Brahmaviharas may be called 'pleasant practices'

 


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