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Re: Dana (Generosity, Charity) "Abhidhamma in daily life "
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2017, 07:51:39 am »
It's the nature of Dhamma-Vinaya that it does not prosper where the basics are missing and it would not survive under improper means. It's may worthy to think about, that it has as good no change to even start to grow in modern world.
Where ever wrong view growed strong, in those countries are just counterfies be found. Things have causes, Francis.
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Re: Dana (Generosity, Charity) "Abhidhamma in daily life "
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2017, 05:21:30 am »
It's the nature of Dhamma-Vinaya that it does not prosper where the basics are missing and it would not survive under improper means. It's may worthy to think about, that it has as good no change to even start to grow in modern world.
Where ever wrong view growed strong, in those countries are just counterfies be found. Things have causes, Francis.


Hi Samana Johann,

The Vinaya, suspect it’s been moribund for a long time now, especially when it comes to the incorrect us of dana. I'm done arguing, so I suggest you take the time to read the Broken Buddha. I read it a while ago, but it came to mind as this discussion progressed. It’s not complementary, but look at it as blueprint for all the things that need to change, for Buddhism to grow in a modern world.
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Re: Dana (Generosity, Charity) "Abhidhamma in daily life "
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2017, 06:14:28 pm »
See... that's how the equanimity acts as excuse and that's why the Buddha taught so much about wothy once and thieves (fox and the graps).

My person would suggest Francis not to associate with fools, but that is often difficult because ones tendency often disagrees with the Buddha like popular monks without the sightest respect for Dhamma & Vinaya. That is like if a highway robber writes a book "how to reduce thieving".

Stay by the Buddha and away from people without faith an respect.



As it is clear, Francis should invest much time in learning from the Dhamma and Vinaya and practice Dana seriously and not just "equanimity in giving".

The modern world is terrible corrupted by monks incapable to keep Vinaya and live like homeless but simply teach for a livelihood, for Dana...

It's, as told already, impossible that the Savaka Sangha will ever establish in modern world, because wrong view it more than strong. Even if people (incl. their kept monks, meditate, they are incapable to do even the basics.

Same kind meet each others and if people trust the Buddha a little, they would know that conditions outwardly can only be changed from within, but as someone with neighter faith nor understanding, one asked rather to give at first place "equanimiously..." Defilements will find 1001 ecxuses to let greed and delusion look justyfied, never the mind would raise a honest question, putting the defilements arguements into question.

My person have not seen or heard of any Sangha that does not make their livelihood by teaching in the modern world and that is really sad, for both parts, never taking part but if good practising the Uposatha of the cowards but for the most the Uposatha of the Jain.

Maybe a talk might be able to make one a little more understanding: Sensitivity through Generosity
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