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Re: which school of buddhism does this point towards?
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2018, 10:21:13 am »
I let Buddhism be what it is: the path to the end of suffering.

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Re: which school of buddhism does this point towards?
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2018, 01:03:03 am »
Science and logic...even common sense help us understand the world.

Arkena has said it! "Science helps us understand the world". The first thing my physics professor told us:"What I'm going to teach you is a description of how nature/the universe behaves in certain circumstances." And then he thought us the special relativity theory... It's not the truth, it's just a description! Just as every other scientific theory.

Science tries to describe the world. It doens't nor can't understand. People understand, not science. Science and logic are methods and are only valid within specific boundaries.

It makes no sense for Buddhist thinkers to try to compete with science nor try to agree with science. I really get annoyed when again a Buddhist teacher refers to 'quantum mechanics' to indicate what they are telling is supported by science...

Science is a description. And the same goes for the for noble truths! Words and statements can help us to understand, but that's all. So the previous statement that if science is true, the four noble truths aren't, is silly.

For noble truths, the five aggregates, emptiness, depended co-arising,... they all are also descriptions. Descriptions with the intention to point us to the right direction.

The simile of the raft is really, to a great extend, applicable here. Use the raft to get to the other side. When you get there, you have to let go of the raft!

Science didn't exist in the time of Gautama but if it did he would have used it to convince scientifically educated people to practice. Just as the Buddha used braman terminology to convince braman people and used jain terminology to convince jain people.

And even for not educated people (ex. peasants) he used agricultural terminology:
- wheel of the cart follows the track of the ox
- simile of the snake (how to handle a snake)
- story of the guy who has done it's work (bringing in the crops, chopped wood,...), resting content by the fire place... and then his house is destroyed by a storm

The finger pointing to the moon, to my opinion, isn't restricted to only religion...


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