Author Topic: Laws of Karma & Reincarnation are Baloney!!!!!  (Read 73 times)

Offline PolarBerry

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Laws of Karma & Reincarnation are Baloney!!!!!
« on: October 11, 2017, 01:20:47 am »
      I think the Buddhist movement should find a way to teach others how to prevent suffering and reach nirvana; especially children at an early age so they won't have to suffer so much to learn otherwise we as human kind seize to evolve and allow       suffering for future generations due to negligence.  I suggest Buddhist monks with the great discipline that they have to use that energy and focus to change others into becoming good moral people as well, not people who sit around and wait for a donation but people who take active initiative to change the world.
     What should be taught is why we must live righteous and ethical lives so the world can reach world peace, unification, and understanding.  This needs to be simple yet detailed enough for even children to understand.
     Also sitting around meditating all day isn't benefiting anyone but your own peace of mind, if you are capable of work (any mental or physical effort) that will benefit society in a positive way you should do so.  I don't think Gautama Siddhartha intended for anyone to copy him sitting at the tree seeking the truth of life when he passed his hypothesis of the laws of "Karma" and "Reincarnation".  I'm pretty sure his intention was for Buddhists to work together to make the world a better place, not sit around trying to figure out more truth of the cosmic universe.


On another note I'd like to add my objections to the key principles of Buddhism:

1)  I disagree with the law of reincarnation; I believe Siddhartha meant reincarnation as in a rebirth of the soul or spirit or new soul and spirit within the same flesh.  For instance if we are not understanding of the way one person's soul is than we as world shall get reborn spiritually in the same flesh, otherwise there is no true understanding because we are born without memory of a past life and for that some of us will die wondering why we suffered so much more than others.  

2)  I disagree with karma because it does not explain why some children are born suffering and others are born blessed, if we apply the law of reincarnation into the equation it still leaves the fact that we are born with no memory of the past life.  If one has no memory of it's mistakes but is suffering to learn mistakes that it has no recollection of making, what does one learn or understand besides that this world is unjust?  Being that somethings in this world are created so perfectly, including the human body and it's functions for survival, to have something like karma as a law does not sound reasonable at all.
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Re: Laws of Karma & Reincarnation are Baloney!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 04:33:13 am »
Welcome Bear  :namaste:

      I think the Buddhist movement should find a way to teach others how to prevent suffering and reach nirvana; especially children at an early age so they won't have to suffer so much to learn otherwise we as human kind seize to evolve and allow       suffering for future generations due to negligence.  I suggest Buddhist monks with the great discipline that they have to use that energy and focus to change others into becoming good moral people as well, not people who sit around and wait for a donation but people who take active initiative to change the world.

I think its a bit late in the developing dystopian world.

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What should be taught is why we must live righteous and ethical lives so the world can reach world peace, unification, and understanding.  This needs to be simple yet detailed enough for even children to understand.

Chances of peace are reducing rather than increasing. At this stage of the cycle, it is best wise people be prepared for social dystopian apocalypse, such as this dhamma talk called: The Dhamma Truth of Samatha-Vipassana for the Nuclear Age
 
http://www.dhammatalks.net/Books2/Bhikkhu_Buddhadasa_Keys_to_Natural_Truth.htm#THE DHAMMA-TRUTH_OF SAMATHA-VIPASSANA

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Also sitting around meditating all day isn't benefiting anyone but your own peace of mind, if you are capable of work (any mental or physical effort) that will benefit society in a positive way you should do so.

Society must help itself. Most of society cannot even see the evil within society & are brainwashed by the govt mass media. It is very difficult to help people who are lost in self-absorption.

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I don't think Gautama Siddhartha intended for anyone to copy him sitting at the tree

But he did, according the scriptures, where it is reported he said:

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You have all spoken well, Sāriputta, each in his own way. Hear also from me what kind of bhikkhu could illuminate this Gosinga Sāla-tree Wood. Here, Sāriputta, when a bhikkhu has returned from his almsround, after his meal, he sits down, folds his legs crosswise, sets his body erect, and establishing mindfulness in front of him, resolves: ‘I shall not break this sitting position until through not clinging my mind is liberated from the taints.’ That kind of bhikkhu could illuminate this Gosinga Sālatree Wood. https://suttacentral.net/en/mn32

 :namaste:

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seeking the truth of life when he passed his hypothesis of the laws of "Karma" and "Reincarnation".

The Buddha's enlightenment was not about "kamma & reincarnation". It was about freedom from suffering from the practice of not clinging to the world.

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I'm pretty sure his intention was for Buddhists to work together to make the world a better place, not sit around trying to figure out more truth of the cosmic universe.

Actually, this was not the Buddha's intention. Making a better world was merely a side effect of enlightenment & attempted when possible.

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On another note I'd like to add my objections to the key principles of Buddhism:

It sounds like you have not studied Buddhism enough to raise valid objections.

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1)  I disagree with the law of reincarnation; I believe Siddhartha meant reincarnation as in a rebirth of the soul or spirit or new soul and spirit within the same flesh.  For instance if we are not understanding of the way one person's soul is than we as world shall get reborn spiritually in the same flesh, otherwise there is no true understanding because we are born without memory of a past life and for that some of us will die wondering why we suffered so much more than others. 

The Buddha did not teach about "reincarnation". For the purpose of liberation, the Buddha taught how attachment causes suffering. For the purpose of morality, he taught about how good actions lead to happy destinations & evil actions lead to unhappy destinations.

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2)  I disagree with karma because it does not explain why some children are born suffering and others are born blessed,

The Buddha taught happiness & suffering are not caused by actions from past lives. Read link: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/an03/an03.061.than.html

With metta  :namaste:

 


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