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Offline Caz

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Dharma Tantrums.
« on: December 11, 2010, 04:07:53 am »
Just thinking about how many Ive actually witnessed on and offline, Now the thinking is that situations that appear to us are an excellent oppertunity to train the mind in fundementals such as Equnimity, Patience, Love and compassion but when you choose to indulge self-cherishing then even once good friends can soon appear to be enemies. Its very sad really.
Be better if we could all just have a nice group hug  :grouphug:
and Id provide the Tea and Biscuits.  :teehee:
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A man sees the rope in the twilight he mistakenly apprehends a snake and develops fear. To remove this fear he must remove the mind apprehending a snake by realizing that there is no snake. Even then, if the rope is left in the same place there is a danger that the same mistake will be made in the future. The only way to remove this danger is to remove the rope. Similarly, sentient beings observing their aggregates in the darkness of their ignorance mistakenly apprehend an inherently existent I. This mind grasping at an inherently existent I is the root of samsara and the source of all fear. To remove the fears of samsara we must remove this mind by realizing that there is no inherently existent I.

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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2010, 07:28:45 am »
Sometimes it isn't that easy...one does not choose to 'unfriend' others at times...there's always 2 sides of the coin...

Like when I left Christianity, people whom I have known for years and whom I regarded as a fellow brethren in the faith would just hang me on the ignore line or outright just tell me that Hell's damnation is my portion...

When I had a crisis back then of being found out by my parents that I was keeping my Buddhist practice under wraps, when I consulted my Buddhist 'brethren' for direction, what did I get? Remarks like... 'You ungrateful unfillial son!', 'Renounce the Triple Gem!', 'Go back to church!'....

'Friend'? 'Dharma friend'? I have learned over the years to carefully consider whom is a 'friend'... be they secular or Dharmic ones...

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Should a seeker not find a companion who is better or equal,
let him resolutely pursue a solitary course;
there is no fellowship with the fool.   
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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2010, 09:08:08 am »
Yeah!  Group hug is what is needed!
 
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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2010, 09:29:32 am »
Quote from: t on December 11, 2010, 07:28:45 am
Sometimes it isn't that easy...one does not choose to 'unfriend' others at times...there's always 2 sides of the coin...

Like when I left Christianity, people whom I have known for years and whom I regarded as a fellow brethren in the faith would just hang me on the ignore line or outright just tell me that Hell's damnation is my portion...

When I had a crisis back then of being found out by my parents that I was keeping my Buddhist practice under wraps, when I consulted my Buddhist 'brethren' for direction, what did I get? Remarks like... 'You ungrateful unfillial son!', 'Renounce the Triple Gem!', 'Go back to church!'....

'Friend'? 'Dharma friend'? I have learned over the years to carefully consider whom is a 'friend'... be they secular or Dharmic ones...

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http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/dhp/dhp.05.budd.html
Should a seeker not find a companion who is better or equal,
let him resolutely pursue a solitary course;
there is no fellowship with the fool.   



Good call T.
Then again this is Samsara and everything is subject to decay Including friendships, Which is a shame really. :bigtears:
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A man sees the rope in the twilight he mistakenly apprehends a snake and develops fear. To remove this fear he must remove the mind apprehending a snake by realizing that there is no snake. Even then, if the rope is left in the same place there is a danger that the same mistake will be made in the future. The only way to remove this danger is to remove the rope. Similarly, sentient beings observing their aggregates in the darkness of their ignorance mistakenly apprehend an inherently existent I. This mind grasping at an inherently existent I is the root of samsara and the source of all fear. To remove the fears of samsara we must remove this mind by realizing that there is no inherently existent I.

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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2010, 09:29:54 am »
Quote from: Tsongkhapafan on December 11, 2010, 09:08:08 am
Yeah!  Group hug is what is needed!
 
:grouphug:


Right back at you  :grouphug:
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A man sees the rope in the twilight he mistakenly apprehends a snake and develops fear. To remove this fear he must remove the mind apprehending a snake by realizing that there is no snake. Even then, if the rope is left in the same place there is a danger that the same mistake will be made in the future. The only way to remove this danger is to remove the rope. Similarly, sentient beings observing their aggregates in the darkness of their ignorance mistakenly apprehend an inherently existent I. This mind grasping at an inherently existent I is the root of samsara and the source of all fear. To remove the fears of samsara we must remove this mind by realizing that there is no inherently existent I.

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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2010, 11:30:35 am »
Hi Caz,
Great idea.
Theravadan biscuits, or those other Mahayanan wafers (ugh!)
what kind of tea?
 ;D

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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2010, 11:55:26 am »
A "group hug" with tea & cookies?  :ppbt:

Why have this as only a fallback position, let us just dump the Dharma practice altogether.  Instead we can pet puppies & kitties and watch It a Wonderful Life over and over.
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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2010, 02:19:22 pm »
Quote from: dhammaseeker51 on December 11, 2010, 11:30:35 am
Hi Caz,
Great idea.
Theravadan biscuits, or those other Mahayanan wafers (ugh!)
what kind of tea?
 ;D

with Metta

Lets have a mixture all biscuits are tasty  :cheesy:
Tea Im thinking Earl Grey Or Lady Grey of course some could bring their own.  :D
Seems like Skull shall be bringing the DVDs  :teehee:
« Last Edit: December 11, 2010, 10:51:01 pm by Caz »
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A man sees the rope in the twilight he mistakenly apprehends a snake and develops fear. To remove this fear he must remove the mind apprehending a snake by realizing that there is no snake. Even then, if the rope is left in the same place there is a danger that the same mistake will be made in the future. The only way to remove this danger is to remove the rope. Similarly, sentient beings observing their aggregates in the darkness of their ignorance mistakenly apprehend an inherently existent I. This mind grasping at an inherently existent I is the root of samsara and the source of all fear. To remove the fears of samsara we must remove this mind by realizing that there is no inherently existent I.

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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2010, 05:57:33 pm »
Hang on.  Ok, stand back!  I feel a Dharma tantrum coming on!   Wait a sec...

Kitten arrived just in time.  Geez, that was a close call --  :sweat:



A little more tea, please.  Thanks.  Yes, just a spot of milk.  Did you really bake the biscuits yourself?  Fantastic!
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(Even the most curmudgeonly among us need a good hug now and again!)

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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2010, 11:48:27 am »
People get upset about that which is close to their hearts.

Some vent out loud, some choose restraint.  Either way the mind churns.

Best,
Laura
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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2010, 01:58:49 pm »
Quote from: Ngawang Drolma on December 14, 2010, 11:48:27 am
People get upset about that which is close to their hearts.

Some vent out loud, some choose restraint.  Either way the mind churns.

Best,
Laura

Nicely put.
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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2010, 03:57:10 pm »
Quote from: dhammaseeker51 on December 11, 2010, 11:30:35 am
Hi Caz,
Great idea.
Theravadan biscuits, or those other Mahayanan wafers (ugh!)
what kind of tea?
 ;D

with Metta

We can always skip all that and just go straight to the Vajrayana thing.  Tsok!!  We even get a little amrita to go with the Feast!
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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2010, 02:38:50 am »
Quote from: Ngawang Drolma on December 14, 2010, 11:48:27 am
People get upset about that which is close to their hearts.

Some vent out loud, some choose restraint.  Either way the mind churns.

Best,
Laura

Nice, well said!  <3
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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2010, 05:42:37 am »
Quote from: Ngawang Drolma on December 14, 2010, 11:48:27 am
People get upset about that which is close to their hearts.

Some vent out loud, some choose restraint.  Either way the mind churns.

Best,
Laura

True.  :buddha:

Now if only we could see this in action, Instead of being slavishly lead.  :blush:
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A man sees the rope in the twilight he mistakenly apprehends a snake and develops fear. To remove this fear he must remove the mind apprehending a snake by realizing that there is no snake. Even then, if the rope is left in the same place there is a danger that the same mistake will be made in the future. The only way to remove this danger is to remove the rope. Similarly, sentient beings observing their aggregates in the darkness of their ignorance mistakenly apprehend an inherently existent I. This mind grasping at an inherently existent I is the root of samsara and the source of all fear. To remove the fears of samsara we must remove this mind by realizing that there is no inherently existent I.

Geshe-la.

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Re: Dharma Tantrums.
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2010, 05:50:18 am »
People get upset about that which is close to their hearts.

Exactly!
Their own opinions are closer to their hearts than the other sentient beings with whom they're having the discussion. In direct contradiction to the dhamma/dharma.
This is of course attachment to views.
Mmm.. this tea's nice. Perhaps I'll try one of those wafers after all...

with Metta
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