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Offline Joka

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« on: March 14, 2017, 10:49:43 am »
Anybody in the mood for some friendly conversation or banter on just about anything?

This doesn't seem to be much of a live chat forum so maybe an open thread for conversation might be better.

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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2017, 04:56:34 pm »
Hi, Joka.  What's going on?

Pleased to meet you.

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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2017, 06:07:12 am »
Sounds fun. I am retired now, and I just started composing music again with the use of a computer. Most music we hear in new movies are all done digitally. I play guitar, and have the necessary pickup to translate the notes I play into a computer signal that triggers a digital instrument in a music making program. It is called MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface). I use a program called "Reason" to finish the songs.
   Does anyone else play an instrument? How do you use it? Do you perform? In a band?

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2017, 08:57:49 am »
After I retired I took up piano again. I have always played the rhythm guitar, and once had two years piano tuition, but a busy life meant that I hadn't the time to practice anything other than chords on the guitar and vamping on the keyboard. I'm busy working my way through  'The Complete Piano Player' series of books, which are surprisingly well structures for someone like me who has had a bit of formal instruction in the past.

I used to play guitar and sing in the folk club in college, and that's about the limit of my public performance, though I have always taught guitar to young children at the schools where I was a teacher. Nothing formal, just teaching a few chords and getting them to sing along to some simple songs.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2017, 11:51:09 am »
Hi, Openmind: 
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" Does anyone else play an instrument? How do you use it? Do you perform? In a band?"

Woodwinds here.  Have't played much for the last few years.  Had a student that wanted to learn jazz saxaphone, but he moved south and I haven't sen any reason to keep practicing / playing.

Glad for all of you who are still playing.

Played piano also years ago when cantering in a church choir.  Same issue as with the woodwinds:  When the application disappeared no reason to continue with the instrument. :)
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2017, 03:08:55 am »
I think my low level playing of the guitar (bashing out chords and singing, not horizontal on the floor) kept me playing over a lifetime. I took it up to play with a mate of mine at school, sort of Simon and Garfunkel style, and still play in my 60's (and, strangely, lots of 60's songs). It works better when there's no one else around, as my voice is not always suited to the key I want to play in! I went for playing and singing two or three hundred songs at a standard good enough for me, rather than ten or twenty really well that I could play with others.

The same thing happened with the keyboard. I could play literally hundreds of tunes by vamping chords with the left hand and following the melody with the right. Things got better when I went electric and could use headphones to stop disturbing everyone.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2017, 05:30:58 pm »
Glad to hear you all are musicians. :)  I got quite serious about playing when I was about 16 years old...played all the time. I played in several bands and made a decent amount of money, then I got drafted in 1971. I became a conscientious objector during the Viet Nam war. It was the lottery system back then with them choosing draftees by picking their birthdays out of a hat. They were taking the first 130 birthdays that year. My birthday came up 63! So that ended my rock star climb. :) Since then I have played in about 5 bands and went on the road full time in 1982. I hated it. L   o   n   g     hours. Stay up till 2am every night, except Sunday. Moving every week or two to a new location really puts the skids on developing meaning relationships. So I quit that, played in a couple more bands until about 20 years ago. So I built a little home studio when computers became powerful enough to make and record music. Since that time I have written well over 600 songs. Just broke out my amp so I can start recording some songs with me playing lead guitar live.
  Having something to be involved in with art/music is really quite a good yoga. It keeps our right brain active in imagining and envisioning whats in our being.

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2017, 03:31:33 am »
I've a question for the professional musicians among you. I find myself getting emotionally involved with the music as the melody starts to 'speak' to me. Does this stop if you do it for a living? I guess I get to play only the stuff I want to play, and can't really imagine playing anything else.
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2017, 05:18:28 am »
When I played "professionally", 6 nights a week...da da da, I was in a band that featured a professional woman dancer/singer. We did a set of cover songs, then do a set of "themed " music for Nancy to dance and sing, then another set of cover songs, then another act be Nancy, the one last cover song set. We played very expensive hotels in the south and north east. ALL the songs were cover songs. Even in her performances, with flood lights, and her sitting on men's laps while singing. YUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hated it. At one place the management told us to stop the Nancy shows, because he wasn't selling the enough liquor then. That did it for me. I officially was in a a job I didn't like.
  When I came back off the road I found a band that was doing about 80% originals. I joined and I really got to play. It was a "fussion" band. Didn't get very many gigs, but I fixed that. I suggested we get a singer, and throw in some good cover songs, then we could get more work, and do about 60% originals and 40% cover songs. The bass player was a film making nut so he filmed one of our gigs with me doing a Hendrix medley.  It is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTMIAqvBodc.

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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2017, 05:57:09 am »
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stillpointdancer:  " I find myself getting emotionally involved with the music as the melody starts to 'speak' to me. Does this stop if you do it for a living? "

The emotional component did not stop for me, but was dependent upon the complexity of the music.  For example, if I was playing a particularly difficult piece, which I had not totally mastered, especially if reading music, I found that the experience could actually be very, very, very stressful.  When the piece I was playing was mastered, or it was piece with which I was very familar, stress levels were low, and for the most part I enjoyed playing them.  I can't say that I ever cried while playing.  I was never that emotional, but I did feel a great deal of joy when the performance was exceptional or at least "good enough for jazz" as we used to say in my day.   :wink1:
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2017, 03:08:30 am »
When I played "professionally", 6 nights a week...da da da, I was in a band that featured a professional woman dancer/singer. We did a set of cover songs, then do a set of "themed " music for Nancy to dance and sing, then another set of cover songs, then another act be Nancy, the one last cover song set. We played very expensive hotels in the south and north east. ALL the songs were cover songs. Even in her performances, with flood lights, and her sitting on men's laps while singing. YUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hated it. At one place the management told us to stop the Nancy shows, because he wasn't selling the enough liquor then. That did it for me. I officially was in a a job I didn't like.
  When I came back off the road I found a band that was doing about 80% originals. I joined and I really got to play. It was a "fussion" band. Didn't get very many gigs, but I fixed that. I suggested we get a singer, and throw in some good cover songs, then we could get more work, and do about 60% originals and 40% cover songs. The bass player was a film making nut so he filmed one of our gigs with me doing a Hendrix medley.  It is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTMIAqvBodc.

Some real 80's hair styles you've got going on there ;)

 


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