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ENNEAGRAM
« on: January 25, 2012, 07:38:16 am »
Can we find our unique satori thru this personality type system?
I am nine(peacemaker, mediator) and you?

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      The One is impassioned by anger and fixated on perfectionism – a path to satori is patience, the willingness to accept conditions that do not conform to one's ideal. 
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      Twos have the passion of pride and when fixated on entitlement their caring for others is conditional – a path to satori is loving kindness, which is true compassion without expectation.
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      The passion of Threes is vanity, their fixation is deception (the need to always see oneself and be see as successful) – truthfulness, speaking from the essential self and not through personality needs, is a way to satori.
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      Fours live with the passion of envy and the fixation of dissatisfaction – satori can be sought through equanimity; seeing all events as intrinsically neutral; it is desire that grades things as "good" or "bad."
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      Fives have the passion of hoarding, with a fixation on detachment (they seek information but keep themselves from emotional connection) – they can seek satori through generosity, giving freely of oneself so energy flows in the other direction.
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      For Sixes, fear is the passion (experienced as anxiety or hyper-vigilance), accusation the fixation – satori becomes possible with morality; living with integrity, recognizing one's own contribution to situations instead of playing victim.
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      Sevens are driven by the passion of gluttony, with enthusiasm as a fixation (having fun and "the good life") – a path to satori is the well-known one of renunciation, seeking moderation and letting go of materialism.
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      The Eight fixation on power and control stems from the passion of excess – wisdom is a way to satori; a shift to more altruistic and benign modes of operating, a focus on service to the world.
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      Indolence is the Nine's passion; the fixation is self-forgetting (resulting from their other-directedness) – energy is a way to satori for Nines; the willingness to stay focused on their own purpose, without distraction. 
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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 09:37:48 pm »
I took one enneagram test, it suggested that I could be one of five possibilities. Considering there are 9 total, I did not think the test was very useful. Another test suggested that I am probably a "9".


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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 04:56:25 am »
       Who else is willing to join us?
http://similarminds.com/test.html

        1 The Perfectionist
        2 The Giver
        3 The Performer
        4 The Tragic Romantic
        5 The Observer
        6 The Loyal Skeptic
        7 The Epicure
        8 The Protector
        9 The Mediator Monkey_Mind,nowornever

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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 06:26:27 pm »
ok, maybe you're right. This is not a psychological forum. I should focus on practice, not classifying people...

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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2012, 05:50:00 am »
Dear moonbeam, Hanzze, TMingyur., t, Spiny le Norman, Wonky Badger and Lobster – join us, please…

        1 The Perfectionist
        2 The Giver Mother Teresa, ZM Soeng Hyang
        3 The Performer ZM Seung Sahn, ZM Bon Shim
        4 The Tragic Romantic Roshi Kwong, Dr. Roland Wohrle-Chon JDPSN
        5 The Observer ZM Wu Bong
        6 The Loyal Skeptic Buddha Sakyamuni, U.G.Krishnamurti,
        7 The Epicure ZM Dae Bong, ZM BonYo, Jo Potter JDPSN
        8 The Protector  ZM Dae Jin, Andrzej Piotrowski JDPSN
        9 The Mediator Monkey_Mind,NON,DalajL.,Ghandi,J Krishnai,Ja An PSN,Myong Oh PSN
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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 04:36:37 am »
On some topics, people vote with their feet.
Sergeant Schultz was onto something.

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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2012, 07:30:46 am »
Ok, Catmoon, you are type number 10, or 0 if u like..

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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2012, 03:17:32 pm »
Ok, Catmoon, you are type number 10, or 0 if u like..

Zero?  ;D  Yeah that's pretty cool, I'd be very happy with that.
Sergeant Schultz was onto something.

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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2012, 02:30:05 am »

        0 Catmoon     
        1 The Perfectionist
        2 The Giver Mother Teresa, ZM Soeng Hyang
        3 The Performer ZM Seung Sahn, ZM Bon Shim
        4 The Tragic Romantic Roshi Kwong, Dr. Roland Wohrle-Chon JDPSN
        5 The Observer ZM Wu Bong
        6 The Loyal Skeptic Buddha Sakyamuni, U.G.Krishnamurti,
        7 The Epicure ZM Dae Bong, ZM BonYo, Jo Potter JDPSN
        8 The Protector  ZM Dae Jin, Andrzej Piotrowski JDPSN
        9 The Mediator Monkey_Mind,NON,DalajL.,Ghandi,J Krishnai,Ja An PSN,Myong Oh PSN

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ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2012, 09:19:20 pm »
The enneagram has its origins in the Catholic church, and is a loved tool in New Age circles. I think that might be why it is either unknown or ignored with folks here.

Jack Kornfield published a book about personality types based on Buddhist literature. I haven't read it, but I'm told it is an interesting read.

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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2012, 04:15:35 am »
Ok, maybe it has its origin in the Catholic church. But originally are Buddhism and Christianity different? In zen it is said:"If something works, that is zen". Ok, ok - I must understand that Buddhists don't want to play with me by categorizing themselves thru this test. Why am so stubborn? Maybe because one Buddhist master I know once said to me:"Become the Enneagram Master!"(this teacher used to use this personality system for many years).

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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 06:05:30 am »
1) I like to be popular.

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2) I am very cautious to avoid accidents or injuries.

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3) Rationality is truth.

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4) I am more dominant than submissive.

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5) I have a heightened awareness of danger.

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6) I tend to have a calming effect on others due to my inherent laid back nature.

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7) I am a domineering person.

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8) I tend to take precautions.

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9) I maintain my spaces in an orderly way.

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10) I have a need to maintain high levels of excitement.

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11) My main motivation by far is to express my individuality.

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12) I go the extra mile to make others around me feel at ease.

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13) I am aggressive.

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14) Sometimes I am overly cautious.

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15) Expression is the greatest motivation in my life.

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16) I am very adventurous.

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17) No matter how bad things get I tend to maintain a sense of inner calm.

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18) I am always worried about something.

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19) I live to discover and do new things.

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20) I thrive on the rush of risk taking.

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21) I am attracted to prestige.

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22) What makes rational sense is the most important guide.

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23) I believe I am very unique.

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24) I am a thrill seeker compared to most people.

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25) My thoughtfulness and charitable nature are my foundation.

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26) I desire some level of fame in my community.

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27) I am a very organized person.

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28) The scientific method is the best tool in existence for ascertaining objective truth.

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29) I accomplish my work on time.

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30) I am frequently helping others but I forget about myself.

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31) I tend to prepare for worst case scenarios.

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32) I prefer to finish things ahead of schedule when possible.

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33) I prefer organized to unpredictable.

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34) If I can't come up with rational reasons to do something, I don't do it.

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35) I put the needs of others ahead of my own.

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36) I am calm in tense situations.

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37) I have a very relaxed personality.

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38) Doing things based on convention or instinct without regard to what makes rational sense, is foolish.

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39) My desire for acclaim motivates me.

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40) I like to be impressive to others.

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41) I am assertive.

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42) I do not back down when threatened.

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43) I have very strong artistic opinions.

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44) I frequently take an active interest in the welfare of others (helping out, taking care of, etc.).

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45) Artistic achievement is very important to me.

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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 04:37:21 pm »
ok, please delete this topic. It must me irrelevant as nobody answers it. What's the point?

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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 05:34:06 am »
Found this in Dictionary.com:

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Main Entry:      Enneagram
Part of Speech:      n
Definition:      a system of spiritual psychology based on an ancient Sufi typology of nine personality types or primary roles with the recognition of one's type tantamount to a spiritual awakening
Etymology:      Greek ennea 'nine'


Here are my nine + nine in order of their occurences:

1.  Animal
2.  Human
3.  Male
4.  Son
5.  Cousin
6.  Brother
7.  Playmate
8.  Student
9.  Employee
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1.  Technician
2.  Husband
3.  Father
4.  Supervisor
5.  Engineer
6.  Sen Engineer
7.  Retiree
8.  Widower
9.  Explorer
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1. Life goes on
2.  And on
3.  And on
4.  And on......
9.  Corpse
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Re: ENNEAGRAM
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 05:38:17 am »
so Enneagram is connected with spiritual recognition :)
I was afraid that it was only Christian...
Thank you for your reply.

 


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