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Re: Meher Baba
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2020, 03:38:17 pm »
What if Meher Baba restored the Buddha's original teachings in his writings and life example?

What if he was a charlatan?
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2020, 05:11:02 pm »
What if Meher Baba restored the Buddha's original teachings in his writings and life example?

What if he was a charlatan?

If he was a charlatan, I don't believe it was intentional. People can only read his writings and look at the life he lived and decide for themselves what to believe.

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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2020, 06:22:52 pm »
To be honest, it's no harder to believe that Meher Baba was the incarnation of Maitreya than to believe that the Dalai Lama is the reincarnation of Avalokitesvara. I don't mean to slander the Dalai Lama or any other reincarnated tulku by pointing this out. Meher Baba never denied having human weaknesses, and neither does the Dalai Lama.
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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2020, 11:02:56 am »
Meher Baba described his relationship to his followers similarly to how Zen Buddhists describe their relationship to the Buddha:

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Having no self other than the real Self (which is the aspirant’s real inner being) means that He is able to reflect back to aspirants their own ideal (Divine) self, and to provide the exact discipline they require to realize that Self.
https://www.babacentersite.com/methods

Zen teaches that we follow the Buddha because he's ultimately symbolic of our own true nature, when the petty ego-self is peeled away.

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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2020, 12:36:11 pm »
Zen teaches that we follow the Buddha because he's ultimately symbolic of our own true nature, when the petty ego-self is peeled away.

I don't think Zen teaches that. 

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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2020, 03:18:49 pm »
Zen teaches that we follow the Buddha because he's ultimately symbolic of our own true nature, when the petty ego-self is peeled away.

I don't think Zen teaches that.

What do you think the Zen saying of "If you see the Buddha on the road, kill him" is meant to say? All a teacher can do, ultimately, is help awaken you to your own Buddha-nature.

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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2020, 11:42:51 am »
Meher Baba's parents were from Iran, and while he conveyed truths common to Hinduism and Mahayana Buddhism, the terminology he used was greatly borrowed from Sufism, which seeks to understand the deeper meaning of the Koran.

Here are the words of Muhammad (Peace be upon him) on the Koran's deeper meaning, "The Koran possesses an external appearance and a hidden depth, an exoteric (literal) meaning and an esoteric (spiritual) meaning."

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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2020, 08:16:53 pm »


This is the Persian teacher Bahaullah. He claimed to be the promised Maitreya of Buddhism as well as the avatar of the age promised in Hinduism, the second coming of the Christ and the Mahdi of Islam.

Bahais, the followers of Bahaullah, chant the name of God like a mantra, Allahuabha. There are more Bahais in India than in any other country. Their main temple in India is shaped like a giant lotus.

The name Allahuabha means God the All-glorious. The root word Abha is also found in the Buddhist deity Amitabha, which means infinite light.

I am impressed by the similarities of Buddhism and Hinduism with Baha'i faith, and how its founder spent the last decades of his life in prison for refusing to recant as a modern prophet.

Rather than accepting reincarnation, Bahais believe that we are reborn into higher and higher spiritual worlds in our path to God-realization.

The similarities between Bahai faith and Indian religions, for the most part, seem to be coincidental. Bahaullah was raised Shiite Muslim in modern-day Iran, and had little contact with Indian religions.

One can be a Bahai and a follower of Meher Baba at the same time, because Meher Baba did not seek to overthrow any organized religion, and he encouraged his followers to recite any name of God they saw fit, which would include Allahuabha, the name chanted in Bahai faith.

Both teachers were also of Persian descent and both drew heavily from Sufism. Meher Baba even recognized the Bab, the forerunner of Baha'u'llah, as a qutb or spiritual master.
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2020, 02:11:15 am »
This story is from when Meher Baba visited Iran, the native home of his parents, as well as of the Baha'i faith:

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A significant incident occurred when an important leader of the Bahai sect arrived by airplane from Shiraz. His purpose in coming was to question Baba; but when he saw the Master and felt his divine radiation, he prostrated himself at Baba's feet, crying, 'You are God!' As he rushed out through the crowd, he proclaimed: 'I have seen God!'

In this recognition of Baba's spiritual status, he was revealing his own high development, since God can only be recognized by one in whom God is awakened. He was also exemplifying the teaching of the great Bahai Founders — to acknowledge God wherever one finds him.
https://www.avatarmeherbaba.org/erics/yezdbam.html

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Re: Meher Baba
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2020, 06:26:09 am »
I think it's necessary for you to explain just what this thread has to do with the Buddhist path. 

You do refer to Buddhism in comparrison, but it seems like this being done in an attempt to lend it some kind relevance to the larger topic of this board which is, of course, Buddhism.  Still the comparisons drawn are vague and incomplete. 

This thread, isn't really about Buddhism at all.  This is the tea room and the discussion is where it should be.

I'm genuinely curious why you choose to discuss this here, so tell us.  Are you expressing a new interest and devotion to Meher Baba and Bahai?  What has led you to it?  And finally, what purpose do you have in sharing this with this community, when there are others that might be more in-tine with your new interest?  I hope it isn't to preach.  Your pure land postings often had a somewhat evangelical, sectarian tone to them, but recently, you appear to have lost interest in pure land. 

So, I'd like you to explain yourself. 

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