What is the order of Dzogchen practices? Or - What's a perquisite of what? There are so many, it's confusing.
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2013, 11:39:14 pm » Quote from BlueSky:It is divided into 3 - base, path, and fruit. ..........
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2013, 08:47:32 pm »Quote from santamonicacjAt this point your question seems to more about a comprehensive overview of the Nyingma tradition.
An overview Is exactly what i'm looking for. Something i can get an outline from. But i was thinking of Dzogchen, not the tradition/school of Buddhism that 'included' it. Are those terms i mentioned in reply #3 specifically Nyingma? Or perhaps the Nyingma dominate the web? Or the Dzogchen forums?
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2013, 02:19:43 pm »Quote from santamonicacj:Dzogchen is the specialty of the Nyingmas. Kagyus do it some , Sakyas and Gelupas basically not at all.
I was about to add another post here about that. I just tripped into a sentence on the Dharma Wheel that only mentioned the two, Nyingma and the Bon.
Bon and Nyigmapa (Dzogchen) are different.
Bon is a native religion or belief in Tibet. Although it is said that Bon also has dzogchen, that is possible. But the Dzogchen itself doesn't come from Bon
At that time, the monk Nagarjuna, an expert in the five sciences who fully understood the meaning of the Tripitaka and knew a great deal about the Secret Mantra teachings based in the result, was in search of the meaning of the effortless Great Perfection. He met the nun Dagnyima and requested the essential truth. She bestowed it in full and summarized the meaning in a song:While reflecting, even realizing emptiness is deception. While clinging, even attachment to the deity fetters. While thinking, even understanding dharma kaya is a thougth. While meditating, even cultivating nontought is a concept. Thus she sung. Nagarjuna understood perfectly what this meant and expressed his own realization as follows:I, Nagarjuna, am at ease because unborn dharma kaya is free of aggregates. I am at ease because unspoken unceasing speech is free of attributes. I am at ease because mindless wisdom mind is free of birth and death. I have realized enlightened mind as great bliss.
At that time, the monk Nagarjuna, an expert in the five sciences who fully understood the meaning of the Tripitaka and knew a great deal about the Secret Mantra teachings based in the result, was in search of the meaning of the effortless Great Perfection. He met the nun Dagnyima and requested the essential truth.