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Is anyone planning to watch "I Am Cait"?
« on: July 24, 2015, 07:48:14 pm »
I was curious about those who are planning to watch  "I Am Cait" and what their opinion is of the first episode. Although I'm trying to keep an open mind, I'm still struggling with the fact that the Jenner-Kardashian clan is one of the most notorious families when it comes to reality TV and what some describe as the decline television programming quality --- for example, Cait Jenner refers to herself as the "new normal", but if history is an indicator there hasn't been anything "normal" about this family.

I know that this can become a heated topic --- with that in mind, I encourage anyone who replies to do so with maturity.


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Re: Is anyone planning to watch "I Am Cait"?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2015, 01:15:07 pm »
I no longer have cable, although when I did, I did not watch reality TV. It is far from reality. So much of it is scripted and staged, and made to look like reality. It's also very edited, so you're shown only what the producers want you to see. Obviously this is done to make it more entertaining so that the audience keeps coming back for more. There may still be genuine reality TV out there, but at this point I don't take any of it seriously. If I still had cable, I wouldn't watch the program. That being said, I think Caitlin Jenner is a strong person. I feel pain for her thinking about having to live for so many years being someone else. That must have been excruciating. I think it's great that she finally made the decision to become who she really is. I do hope it opens the door for more people who lives their lives as someone else because they are afraid of what society will do to them. The last thing I want is for families to be destroyed over this, however there are so many tortured souls out there that deserve to be free from their pain of living behind a mask. I think she's a beautiful woman, and I say good for her.

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Re: Is anyone planning to watch "I Am Cait"?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2015, 05:23:58 pm »
Yes, as you said, there are many tortured souls out there that deserve to be free from their pain of living behind a mask, but it's kind of funny how quickly as Buddhists we tend to forget that we're still talking about a false identity, where one mask is only being substituted for another mask, so to speak.

To really understand the media sensationalism, one needs to look no further than an interview that occurred this past Thursday on the Today Show, where it was about a young transgendered teenager in college who decided to live as a female within her dormitory (that, my friend, is courage and someone worthy of being a role model), but this interview still hasn't been uploaded to Youtube or mentioned on the internet as far as I can tell.

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Re: Is anyone planning to watch "I Am Cait"?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2015, 06:41:08 pm »
Well, I misspoke --- it was this past Friday on the Today Show --- and the Media Matters website did mention it, but apparently it took awhile for Google to index it:

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During the July 24 edition of the Today show, host Matt Lauer introduced a new installment of NBC's "Undercovered" series, which aims to draw attention to stories and issues that don't typically get major media attention. Lauer noted that while the media has focused heavily on Caitlyn Jenner's public transition, "the reality for other transgender Americans, far from the spotlight, can look very different."


Unfortunately, there are very few members of the transgender community who can afford to live in an ivory palace like Cait Jenner does, long enough insulate themselves from outside pressures and the responses of others in the same fashion afforded Caitlyn.

Anyway, you can read more here, as well as watch the interview:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/07/24/this-today-show-segment-did-something-remarkabl/204579

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Re: Is anyone planning to watch "I Am Cait"?
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2015, 09:52:32 am »
I would much rather watch "I am Jazz" about a young teen transgender girl who is coming of age dealing with this difficult situation. I have recorded it on my PVR and will watch later.  :namaste:

I might catch an episode of Caitlyn just to see what it's like but I'm not super interested - not a huge fan of the Kardashian/Jenner household, and am pretty open about transgender/lgbt issues so it's nothing new to me.  :yes: 
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Re: Is anyone planning to watch "I Am Cait"?
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2015, 07:12:13 pm »
Yes, as you said, there are many tortured souls out there that deserve to be free from their pain of living behind a mask, but it's kind of funny how quickly as Buddhists we tend to forget that we're still talking about a false identity, where one mask is only being substituted for another mask, so to speak.

This makes perfect sense, for Buddhists. But this brings up another question. I have not kept up on my studies so I apologize for my ignorance. How does this apply to someone who is not Buddhist? I don't know much about Caitlin Jenner so I don't know if she is a Buddhist or not. But if someone is not familiar with Buddhist practices, then I cant observe them and think "they're are living a false identity no matter what they do because they don't understand that the concept of identity doesn't apply in the way that they think it does...." Obviously to them, it is their identity. They don't relate to the same principals and philosophies that Buddhists relate to. Maybe this is why I feel more inclined to really get in touch with my empathy for people who don't understand these things.

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Re: Is anyone planning to watch "I Am Cait"?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2015, 07:35:45 pm »
Most religious traditions would view the lifestyle as excessive materialism that's reinforced with a lack of humility --- it's certainly appropriate to have and show empathy for such people, but everyone (all spiritual traditions, Buddhist and non-Buddhist alike) needs to take special care to ensure that their empathy is not misconstrued as enabling or encouraging this type of behavior.

As for my comment about "false identity" --- it's a common Buddhist belief that holding to the identity of oneself as being a maleor female is not only a hindrance when it comes progression along the path, but it's also a barrier to liberation and enlightenment.

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Re: Is anyone planning to watch "I Am Cait"?
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2015, 08:33:23 pm »
As for my comment about "false identity" --- it's a common Buddhist belief that holding to the identity of oneself as being a maleor female is not only a hindrance when it comes progression along the path, but it's also a barrier to liberation and enlightenment.

My apologies. I frequently don't word my questions appropriately. My question was how does this apply to her? If she is not Buddhist, then she may not be concerned with this point of view.

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Re: Is anyone planning to watch "I Am Cait"?
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2015, 09:29:04 pm »
Actually, it's not just a Buddhist concept, but one that can be found within standard psychological disciplines, where it's usually referred to as the "psychology of self" --- for example, to quote Dr. Donald Winnicott (1896–1971), in some of the most severe instances, the false self completely replaces and ousts the true self, leaving the latter a mere possibility:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology_of_self


As psychiatrist Jacques Lacan (1901-1981) elegantly pointed out, we all construct our "identities" from the roles we play at any given time, so "Caitlyn" is not only an identity, but it's also a role being played on the world stage --- of course, this might sound a bit dismissive, but it's no less so than the Buddhist perspective on false identity.

 


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