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Title: Tara empowerment
Post by: Spiny Norman on July 17, 2013, 02:45:20 am
I posted this enquiry recently over on Dharma Wheel ( under my old Porpoise ID ) but I haven't had much response.  Maybe they think I'm a bit odd.. :wink1:
Anyway, if you have any thoughts or suggestions I'd be grateful.

http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13402 (http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13402)
Title: Re: Tara empowerment
Post by: Lobster on July 17, 2013, 05:38:40 am
I have replied there
but would also add that I have done quite a lot of Tara practice. If a bodhisattva decides she needs to enter your mind stream for a while, then travel with them. Everything will be fine.

It really depends on where you are. Practices done with sincerity and devotion lead to good outcomes. Half hearted 'profound insight' meditation done without commitment and discipline is . . . well you know . . . :)
Title: Re: Tara empowerment
Post by: Spiny Norman on July 17, 2013, 05:45:08 am
......but would also add that I have done quite a lot of Tara practice. If a bodhisattva decides she needs to enter your mind stream for a while, then travel with them. Everything will be fine.

Thanks, that's rings true.  I suppose I'm wondering whether it's OK just to "go with the flow" or whether I should be doing a practice to "maintain the connection" - like chanting the Tara mantra? 
Title: Re: Tara empowerment
Post by: songhill on July 17, 2013, 06:38:19 am
I tend to look upon empowerment as "does it help us to unpack the discourses of the Buddha?" According to Dudjom, it should over time. This, by the way, is very dialectical. We don't go into Buddhism after an empowerment and say, "Wow! I get it." Far from it. It's a very gradual learning curve. One has to be prepared for the long haul.

P.S. I am not a fanboi of Gelugpa.
Title: Re: Tara empowerment
Post by: Lobster on July 17, 2013, 07:38:07 am
Thanks, that's rings true.  I suppose I'm wondering whether it's OK just to "go with the flow" or whether I should be doing a practice to "maintain the connection" - like chanting the Tara mantra?


There is benefit in any level of practice, unless you have mental health problems in which case any level of involvement can set you off . . .

When you are as far gone as me, it does not not make much difference. The Tara practice/sadhana I learned takes one hour to one hour twenty minutes to perform. This is the 'praises to the 21 Tara's'.
http://www.preciousteaching.org/practices/the-twenty-one-forms-of-tara-according-to-the-tradition-of-lord-atisha/ (http://www.preciousteaching.org/practices/the-twenty-one-forms-of-tara-according-to-the-tradition-of-lord-atisha/)

It is open, not needing 'permission' to practice.
The green Tara mantra incorporates her other aspects . . .



Title: Re: Tara empowerment
Post by: Spiny Norman on July 17, 2013, 08:38:03 am
[url]http://www.preciousteaching.org/practices/the-twenty-one-forms-of-tara-according-to-the-tradition-of-lord-atisha/[/url] ([url]http://www.preciousteaching.org/practices/the-twenty-one-forms-of-tara-according-to-the-tradition-of-lord-atisha/[/url])


Interesting, I'd forgotten there were so many Taras!
Title: Re: Tara empowerment
Post by: ground on July 20, 2013, 06:37:45 am
I posted this enquiry recently over on Dharma Wheel ( under my old Porpoise ID ) but I haven't had much response.  Maybe they think I'm a bit odd.. :wink1:
Anyway, if you have any thoughts or suggestions I'd be grateful.

[url]http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13402[/url] ([url]http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13402[/url])


She's got you and you cannot escape.  :fu:
Title: Re: Tara empowerment
Post by: Spiny Norman on July 22, 2013, 01:41:17 am
I posted this enquiry recently over on Dharma Wheel ( under my old Porpoise ID ) but I haven't had much response.  Maybe they think I'm a bit odd.. :wink1:
Anyway, if you have any thoughts or suggestions I'd be grateful.

[url]http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13402[/url] ([url]http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=13402[/url])


She's got you and you cannot escape.  :fu:


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