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"There can be Miracles...."
« on: December 07, 2009, 07:36:57 pm »
"There can be Miracles....when you believe"
So goes the song by Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey in 'The Prince of Egypt'.

What does thou thinkest, as a Buddhist?  :meditating: 

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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 08:35:18 pm »
The ultimate state of mind in buddhism is emptiness, nirvana......but all of us are living in the relative state of mind, because of our thinking mind.

Is there miracles ? If we understood the inner working of the mind, then there is no miracles. Let's say, u are financially tight, u have exhausted all your means of raising funds, when u are about to give up, the source of funds u required appear , it may appear to be a miracle....According to the law of cause and effect, there is no coincidence, everything which appear as a effect has a cause!

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 11:07:07 am »
What is a miracle?  I don't need to "believe in miracles" to know that highly improbable or seemingly impossible things happen.  Being human is enough to realize that.   <3 I think life is a miracle (highly improbable occurrence), love is a miracle, practicing the dharma is a miracle (again, rare occurrences) if we're defining a miracle as a highly improbable or seemingly impossible occurrence (like my conceiving and carrying through an entire pregnancy and giving birth to a beautiful healthy little girl... that's a miracle).  If we're defining miracles as supernatural occurrences, then there is no such thing.  My findings so far indicate that the world breaks down into two parts: the parts we know and the parts we don't know...

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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 12:00:46 pm »
"There can be Miracles....when you believe"
So goes the song by Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey in 'The Prince of Egypt'.

What does thou thinkest, as a Buddhist?  :meditating: 

I think i have had miracles so im a beleiver :) Especially if you define them merely as events that defy the mundane logic of conditional existence.

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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 12:47:24 pm »
What is a miracle?  I don't need to "believe in miracles" to know that highly improbable or seemingly impossible things happen.  Being human is enough to realize that.   <3 I think life is a miracle (highly improbable occurrence), love is a miracle, practicing the dharma is a miracle (again, rare occurrences) if we're defining a miracle as a highly improbable or seemingly impossible occurrence (like my conceiving and carrying through an entire pregnancy and giving birth to a beautiful healthy little girl... that's a miracle).  If we're defining miracles as supernatural occurrences, then there is no such thing.  My findings so far indicate that the world breaks down into two parts: the parts we know and the parts we don't know...

My two cents.

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every breath is a miracle, if we let it be.  :)

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 01:01:31 pm »
Especially if you define them merely as events that defy the mundane logic of conditional existence.

If that's how we're defining miracle then I'm with you too.  I am a believer as well.
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 11:44:35 pm »
"Thus have I heard"...  There was this story about some monks who were running around performing miracles, which created a certain amount of scandal for the Sangha. Buddha directed the disciples to cease miraculous behaviors, because this was not the intended focus of a life committed to practice (and it was causing the Sangha scandal). But this drew challenges from his critics, so the Buddha suddenly shot fire from his head and water from his feet. He then alternated, shooting water from his head and fire from his feet. Then water and fire from alternating left and right side. Etc, every imaginable configuration of shooting water and fire, simultaneously. He continued doing this for ? days (was it six or sixteen?). As far as miracles go, I prefer the classic turning water to wine, but the fire/ water thing is definitely over the top way cool.

A monk can be asked to disrobe if he/ she claims to have supernatural powers, but all traditions have stories of miraculous events that have occurred via Buddhist practice.

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 11:51:23 pm »
I know I shared this before, but...  Ajahn Bram tells the story about the Thai monk who had been granted life long diplomatic privileges by the US government, e.g. he could enter and leave the US whenever he wanted. According to the story, NASA had installed a new multimillion dollar computer system, that was supposed to replace all previous systems. When it was time to turn the thing on, it didn't work. Teams inspected every aspect of the massive computer system, and there was no explanation for why the thing didn't work. At the suggestion of one of the engineers, a devout Buddhist, they brought in a visiting Thai monk to chase away any evil spirits. The monk chanted and meditated, and... all things being equal... when the went to turn on the computer system it worked!

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 11:56:14 pm »
I know I shared this before, but...  Ajahn Bram tells the story about the Thai monk who had been granted life long diplomatic privileges by the US government, e.g. he could enter and leave the US whenever he wanted. According to the story, NASA had installed a new multimillion dollar computer system, that was supposed to replace all previous systems. When it was time to turn the thing on, it didn't work. Teams inspected every aspect of the massive computer system, and there was no explanation for why the thing didn't work. At the suggestion of one of the engineers, a devout Buddhist, they brought in a visiting Thai monk to chase away any evil spirits. The monk chanted and meditated, and... all things being equal... when the went to turn on the computer system it worked!

Where can I rent me a chanting Thai monk for when my computer breaks down??
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 04:07:52 pm »
I know I shared this before, but...  Ajahn Bram tells the story about the Thai monk who had been granted life long diplomatic privileges by the US government, e.g. he could enter and leave the US whenever he wanted. According to the story, NASA had installed a new multimillion dollar computer system, that was supposed to replace all previous systems. When it was time to turn the thing on, it didn't work. Teams inspected every aspect of the massive computer system, and there was no explanation for why the thing didn't work. At the suggestion of one of the engineers, a devout Buddhist, they brought in a visiting Thai monk to chase away any evil spirits. The monk chanted and meditated, and... all things being equal... when the went to turn on the computer system it worked!
Naw dont believe it.  Think it was a coincidink.   

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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 04:46:11 pm »


Where can I rent me a chanting Thai monk for when my computer breaks down??

I think all MAC computers receive blessings from monks before they leave the assembly line. Conversely, Dell computers are stored for at least a day in a slaughter house before shipping to stores, so that they can absorb much negative karma.

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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 04:53:09 pm »


Where can I rent me a chanting Thai monk for when my computer breaks down??

I think all MAC computers receive blessings from monks before they leave the assembly line. Conversely, Dell computers are stored for at least a day in a slaughter house before shipping to stores, so that they can absorb much negative karma.

Oh... my mac is an Intel and my PC is a Lenovo.  It's not Dell... totally different planet... I promise.


This is going to turn into one of those "Is it coke-Is it Pepsi" "I'm a MAC/I'm a PC" type threads, huh?  Can't we all just get along??  

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Re: "There can be Miracles...."
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 05:02:14 pm »
Naw dont believe it.  Think it was a coincidink.   
Ah, schucks. Please don't disturb my fantasy that a little Buddhist chanting can heal government ineptness.

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 05:31:16 pm »
Naw dont believe it.  Think it was a coincidink.   

Ah, schucks. Please don't disturb my fantasy that a little Buddhist chanting can heal government ineptness.


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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2009, 10:54:00 pm »
I think miracles don't need belief. Miracles are beside the point.

 


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