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Offline Rune

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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #165 on: November 02, 2016, 12:47:49 pm »
Thank you, zafronzen (I really like your name), I have some experience in chanting, for many hours in a row, after I was involved in the "hara krishna" cult.

I guess I will just follow your advice, im usualy pretty good at keeping a good diceplin, when it come to devoting myself on to spiritual matters.

Thank you again.

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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #166 on: November 12, 2016, 05:33:40 am »
Gregkavarnos says it best in this thread - however for good measure I thought I would paste a link to a video which deals with this preceise question . . . . I hope some people find it useful and inspiring . . . .  :fu:

https://youtu.be/BDcUj8nhCqo

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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #167 on: November 28, 2016, 01:08:31 pm »
Have you ever seen the movie: The Man Who Knew Infinity?

Ramanujan was a mathematician with no education, living in India, writing down equations, formulas and theorems as if they were drawn from an expression of God.

He could not prove his claims since he simply saw the conclusion without what the English mathematicians declared as proof. He didn't even understand proof as his divine incarnation provided answers from absolute reality.

Today, Ramanujan is considered one of the top mathematicians to ever have lived, after the Englishmen managed to pull together proof that validated his theorems.

It seems I experience a similar connection to the Dharma, I understand dependent origination, but not in the sense that you do. You write down "steps" that makes no sense to me, when the entire expansion of the eon is a conceptually comprehended phenomenon, without steps that merely asserts that fabrications of a beginning and an end is required to understand time as a closed reference point to build a collective cohesion of knowledge. Even the name Dharma has no real value, as truth is truth to me.

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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #168 on: November 28, 2016, 03:07:36 pm »
What happened to "humility?" Cocaine and speed have the effect of inflating the ego with an illusory sense of power and elation, but it goes to the opposite extreme of self-hatred and depression when it wears off, which is why it is so addictive.

Even without an artificial stimulant, the ego can go through the same ups and downs naturally. Like coke, the ego is addictive but never really satisfactory.

Transcendent, peak experiences come about naturally through meditation, but it is futile to try to grasp them and attach them to an ego. IMHO, equanimity, or evenness of mind, is only achieved when the ego is transcended through meditative stability -- usually achieved only after years of practice and discipline. It's great if you are able to do it so easily -- but I'm naturally skeptical.
My first formal meditation training was with Shunryu Suzuki in the 60's and later with Kobun, Robert Aitken and many other teachers (mainly zen). However, I've spent the most time practicing on my own, which is all I do now. I'm living in a rather isolated area so I miss connecting with other practitioners. Despite my interest in zen I've made an effort to remain secular. You can visit my website at http://www.frogzen.com

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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #169 on: November 28, 2016, 08:39:45 pm »
My most genuine apologies, bipolar disorder is a very serious disorder, I can't even control my body when I'm manic. Destroying social connections is a common symtom of the disorder.
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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #170 on: November 29, 2016, 11:32:37 am »
Maybe working it out anonymously in a forum like this could give you some distance. Attaching to an identity is the cause of a lot of reactions, both high and low. If we're not able to detach from this anonymous forum identity we'll have a hard time with our more real everyday identity. .

I've never experienced bi-polar myself. If I was to go off the rails it would be schizophrenia. Although the "delusions of grandeur" and paranoia might be similar, there's not the extremes of mania and depression. For me mindfulness and exercise were very helpful. I managed to stay out of the mental health system and was never put on meds. Many mentally ill here in Amerika end up on the streets now, for lack of facilities.

My delusions were probably connected to experimentation with strong psychedelics. After the age of 35 or 40 I've had few issues, just some delusive thoughts which I can easily let go of. Finding "emptiness" of self is very fruitful, but it has taken some hard meditation practice for me to really begin to see it and learn to use it. Extreme inflating and deflating of the ego is all happening within emptiness. Just letting it go back from where it arises takes practice. Detachment is easier if one is identified with something larger than the small self.

Anyway, I hope you can find some middle way of letting go of extremes. Don't take this forum too seriously. Most of us are more focused on ourselves than anyone else.
My first formal meditation training was with Shunryu Suzuki in the 60's and later with Kobun, Robert Aitken and many other teachers (mainly zen). However, I've spent the most time practicing on my own, which is all I do now. I'm living in a rather isolated area so I miss connecting with other practitioners. Despite my interest in zen I've made an effort to remain secular. You can visit my website at http://www.frogzen.com

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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #171 on: December 28, 2016, 01:00:47 pm »
Simply by viewing the history of my behavior, as known to those who remember, makes a clear point in why a refuge should be taken in the Buddha, the Sangha and the Dharma before starting a practice. Mere knowledge of the Dharma will not produce insight, this is why we have individual practice.
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