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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #180 on: September 06, 2018, 10:05:23 am »
What a colossal waste of time! How would someone who doesn't meditate (but he's an expert on the subject) know if a meditation teacher is necessary or have any firsthand familiarity with zen practices. I've got better things to do.


My first formal meditation training was with Shunryu Suzuki in the 60's and later with Kobun, Robert Aitken and many other teachers (mainly zen). However, I've spent the most time practicing on my own, which is all I do now. I'm living in a rather isolated area so I miss connecting with other practitioners. Despite my interest in zen I've made an effort to remain secular. You can visit my website at http://www.frogzen.com

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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #181 on: September 08, 2018, 02:29:39 am »
 :anjali: Honestly- As a "seasoned citiZen" I'm running out of time! In over 50 years of meditation practice nobody ever told me there was anything whatsoever to learn, let-alone teachers! Thank You humbly for being my very FIRST one! It is a glorious day indeed! :headbow:
Upon reflection, I feel as though my dear friends here deserve at minimum a humble explanation.

Suiseki: (Water and Stone), is a "True man of no rank" Zen and literati name (gago). It was presented to me in 1981 by my Zen and Shodo (calligraphy) teacher, the late Reiun Sensei.

I am humbled and profoundly fortunate to have had several superlative teachers, guides and true spiritual friends. "Swami-ji", the late His Holiness Shankaracharya of Kashmir Gaddi Swami Swanandashram, graced my personal presence here in America for 17 years.

Swami-ji guided me in the Yoga tradition of Sanatana Dharma (Hinduism), specifically non-dual (Advaita Vedanta) philosophy. He named me Madan Mohan, although I prefer to remain religion-free to this day.

May we share here collectively in our individual spiritual plight with humility, respect, compassion and sincerity. :)

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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #182 on: September 08, 2018, 08:48:26 am »
And it can’t even be said to be learning that there’s nothing to learn.
My first formal meditation training was with Shunryu Suzuki in the 60's and later with Kobun, Robert Aitken and many other teachers (mainly zen). However, I've spent the most time practicing on my own, which is all I do now. I'm living in a rather isolated area so I miss connecting with other practitioners. Despite my interest in zen I've made an effort to remain secular. You can visit my website at http://www.frogzen.com

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Re: Is a Teacher Really Necessary?
« Reply #183 on: November 14, 2018, 06:20:06 pm »
:anjali: Honestly- As a "seasoned citiZen" I'm running out of time! In over 50 years of meditation practice nobody ever told me there was anything whatsoever to learn, let-alone teachers! Thank You humbly for being my very FIRST one! It is a glorious day indeed! :headbow:

I don't recall who said it but: "... even if you practice Zazen for fifty years, you will never become anything special"

I too have been at it a long time and ... nothing, not a damn thing.  I'm so happy I realised early on that there was nothing to be accomplished.

I stay away from spiritual heroes and accomplished beings, what can they be to me? Bigger, smaller, rounder, can sit for a week without breathing? That won't get the wood chopped or the dinner cooked.

How I laugh in the face of ambition! Of course I may be bound for hell.

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