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Online Buddhas
« on: December 13, 2009, 01:13:22 pm »
*note: this post is not about anyone I know*

After spending this year stumbling around the online Buddhist forum scene, I have found an extraordinary number of completely enlightened people who apparently have perfect equinimity throughout there existence at all times and are omnicient founts of wisdom.    why is that?     :P

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Re: Online Buddhas
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 02:36:56 pm »
would that extraordinary number be zero?

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 04:25:01 pm »
I think I've met some the people you've met!  Amazing.  I see they profess their truth which we don't know yet is dharma that might catch on eventually... one of these days... meantime they'll tell everyone everything from an enlightened standpoint and we'll be the hungry audience, listening aptly and raptly and ooh and aah at their every phrase...  I love the internet!!  It's like reality TV only better!

*note PS: why would it matter if this was about anyone you knew?*
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Re: Online Buddhas
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 04:39:32 pm »
[Hmmm... I wonder if this post is about me?  ;D]

OMG (OMB?) Hungry, I am glad I am not the only one seeing this! I thought I was going crazy, or at least more crazy than usual. My goal in being here (meaning on-line Buddhists forums): to seek community and guidance from other like-minded individuals who are on a path, but experience the challenges of pursuing the path while being a lay person with lay duties (like groceries and rent). Seems like whenever a person posts a topic of practical implication, some self-appointed guardian of the Dhamma/ Dharma comes along and shames all those involved for not being Buddhist enough. As if 1) self-appointed guardian is fully enlightened, and expects all others to be too.

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2009, 06:16:09 pm »
Maybe it's because they were sitting on makeshift plastic lotus thrones or standing behind a stadium spotlight hence the halo effect?  ;D

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Re: Online Buddhas
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2009, 06:31:02 pm »
ThornB- I often wonder what you're like in person. Would I see horns and a tail?   ;)

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2009, 06:50:01 pm »
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ThornB- I often wonder what you're like in person. Would I see horns and a tail?   ;)
You forgot the pitchfork dear.... ;)

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Re: Online Buddhas
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 08:44:56 pm »
Yah its amazing.  I think that people have genuine openings, but they dont have someone telling them, "Thats great!...now you still have to eat and crap, and get through the rest of your grinding march in circles until you strangle on your last breath.."   So they get swept away by a Kensho (or its equivilent) and go around bugging people.   

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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2009, 09:29:06 pm »
Yah its amazing.  I think that people have genuine openings, but they dont have someone telling them, "Thats great!...now you still have to eat and crap, and get through the rest of your grinding march in circles until you strangle on your last breath.."   So they get swept away by a Kensho (or its equivilent) and go around bugging people.   

Are these the spiritual materialists I was asking about in another thread...?
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2009, 11:52:27 pm »
Can someone please clarify for me - in this thread are we sincerely talking about genuinely enlightened people who use the internet as their medium, or are we sardonically talking about online Buddha wannabees?

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Re: Online Buddhas
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2009, 12:07:52 am »
Can someone please clarify for me - in this thread are we sincerely talking about genuinely enlightened people who use the internet as their medium, or are we sardonically talking about online Buddha wannabees?
Ah, yes... The main drawback with the internet is that it doesn't carry sarcasm and irony very well. I would think that we are discussing the latter.
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Re: Online Buddhas
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2009, 12:10:34 am »
Although, if you asked the individuals in question... sometimes they really do claim to be Buddhas

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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 02:18:40 am »
Ah yes it's obvious now that I reread OP in my sarcastic voice, hehe.  :P

In all honesty, I do think it is possible that someone will figure out how to use the internet to communicate ideas which will motivate the masses in the direction of liberation.  It might not be via Buddhism, but if it happens, it will be huge.

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Re: Online Buddhas
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2009, 06:35:24 am »
I thought :P was sarcasm?   Maybe this :-* is more sarcastic?.   Someone aughta come up with a sarcasm emoticon thingy. It would save so many threads from turning into smackdowns.   


In the Korean Zen tradition there is emphasis on  "sudden awakening-gradual cultivation"  In other words you have, through intensive practice, retreats and so forth under the guidance of a teacher, an initial awakening to "true nature" confirmed by the teacher. But you are stll a shlump who is acting out of your habit energy. You have awakened, but are not enlightened.  So you have to do the grunt work.  I'm guessing that much of what we see online is the genuine energy and insight of sudden awakening, without the maturity of long practice.  I am still coming to terms with my basic shlumpyness. Its a good thing.   

..... This is ofcourse looking through a particular schools lens.

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Re: Online Buddhas
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2009, 06:45:52 am »
*note: this post is not about anyone I know*

After spending this year stumbling around the online Buddhist forum scene, I have found an extraordinary number of completely enlightened people who apparently have perfect equinimity throughout there existence at all times and are omnicient founts of wisdom.    why is that?     :P


Because you yourself have achieved high realization.

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