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You don't really need a table - there are two truths: Relative and Absolute. Abolute Truth is Emptiness and Relative Truth is everything else.I would advise against placing word docs on line for people to download. They can contain all sorts of nasty chit that will wreck computers and networks.
Phenomena have two natures...........................................................................................................................................Conventional (Relative)Absolute (Ultimate)Assumption/hypothesis: self-existenceFoundation: Laws of Logica. Law of non-contradiction ~(A & ~A)Nothing can both have a property and lack it at the same time.b. Law of identity A=AEverything is identical to itself.C. Law of excluded middle A v ~AFor any particular property, everything either has it or lacks it.(H.S. philosophy class notes based on the book, How to Think About Weird Things)Assumption/hypothesis: inter-dependenceFoundation: karma, middle way, emptinessa. Karma: cause, condition, and effect“If something were inherent, it would mean it existed without depending on anything [i.e. no cause]” (13, Courtin). Karma is interdependence.b. The Middle Way (MW): Extreme--------------Truth-------------Extreme(Faith) (MD) (Nihilism)Truth is non-dual. Align the mind with non-dualism so that we don’t grasp and put too much on either extreme; this way, we could hear properly.Emptiness: there’s nothing from the side of a thing that makes that thing.Things exist by agreement on:a. Characteristics and substanceb. FunctionExample: A cupa. it’s a flat-bottomed clay container with a handle on it.b. It holds tea. If everybody agrees, then it’s a cup(8, Courtin).“The object, the superstition [of] giving it a name and the name itself – is all that’s needed for a relative phenomenon to exist” (17, Lama Yeshe).“[Things] are mere [names] on a collection of parts” (18, Lama Yeshe).Things exist in dependence upon:a. causes and conditionsb. partsc. the mind that labels them.Example: Absence of inherent cupa. “There is a cup that does exist – in dependence upon countless causes and conditions. But you will not find a cup among any one of those causes and conditions. […] Therefore there’s no cup from its own side. You see the absence of the inherent cup.” (9, Courtin)Causes and conditions make up a cup. A cup doesn’t exist without causes and conditions (independently). P, Q; ~Q, ~PIt exists interdependently, i.e. empty of inherent existence.* b-1. If the cup existed inherently, i.e. not dependent on anything, then there’d be a cup once we break down the parts. Where’s it?Another Ex: “I have a foot. […] There’s my foot – cut it off! […] Now, where’s the I? Where is the I that is not the nose, not the hand, and not the foot...” (10, Courtin).b-2. The inherent cup can’t be a combination of all the parts either because that would mean the cup is dependent on its parts, which are constantly undergoing change (impermanence). If the parts have changed, then is it still that original cup?c. The concept of “cup” would not be possible without the mind defining and inputting it. The very word, “phenomenon, means the object of a person’s perception, what the mind notices.............Is a little bugy, the table code Code: [Select][table][tr][td]colum1[/td][/tr][tr][td]colum 2[/td][/tr][/table]You (who ever inspired and generous, sympatetic torward fearing people) can contionue to complete the table.Offtopic u hover me.
there are two truths: Relative and Absolute. Abolute Truth is Emptiness and Relative Truth is everything else.
I've compiled a table that compares and contrasts the relative and the ultimate truth, which are said to be two sides of the same coin. I'm not sure if I'm understanding emptiness correctly. Any feedback or comments would be appreciated. See attached.
In studying and speaking the Dharma, we especially need to be aware of the conventional (or worldly or cultural) level and the ultimate (param’attha) or spiritual or Dharma) level of teaching. The conventional language is only useful and wholesome when they point, even remotely, to the true Dharma. And at the proper time, this reference should be clarified to the follower or practitioner. The point is that the spiritual should in due course transcend the worldly and cultural.1.2 The Neyy’attha Nīt’attha Sutta (A 2.3.5-6) records an important reminder by the Buddha on how we should approach every sutta and text, that is, we must carefully consider whether the language is conventional (based on everyday language describing causes and conditions) or ultimate (that is, Dharma language, pointing to the fact that things have no intrinsic nature or abiding essence).Those suttas or teachings that tell stories, describe ritual acts, or that talk of “beings,” “gods,” etc, need to have their meaning drawn out (neyy’attha), as they do not directly refer to true reality. They use language and words in the form of a story or images to talk about true reality. Their meaning is indirect.They are provisional (pariyāya) teachings, unlike say some Abhidhamma doctrines, which are said to be explicit (nippariyāyena).1http://dharmafarer.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/2.6b_Neyyattha_Nitattha_S_a2.3.5-6_piya.pdf
That's fine, but the Buddha's teachings still state (and I paraphrase) , Absolute Truth is emptiness and Relative Truth is everything else.
Quote from: IdleChater on September 12, 2017, 07:05:51 pmThat's fine, but the Buddha's teachings still state (and I paraphrase) , Absolute Truth is emptiness and Relative Truth is everything else.While some Mahayana philosophers taught that the ultimate truth is emptiness, others taught the ultimate truth is pure consciousness:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Consciousnesses
Quote from: Dharma Flower on September 12, 2017, 11:03:44 pmQuote from: IdleChater on September 12, 2017, 07:05:51 pmThat's fine, but the Buddha's teachings still state (and I paraphrase) , Absolute Truth is emptiness and Relative Truth is everything else.While some Mahayana philosophers taught that the ultimate truth is emptiness, others taught the ultimate truth is pure consciousness:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_ConsciousnessesWhich shows that the expression 'ultimate truth' is only a conventional linguistic expression since its definition is dependent on the community of believers that provides it.There is no 'ultimate truth' that is ultimately or absolutely true since what is called 'truth' is only true for the concealer ordinary consciousness.
Quote from: ground on September 12, 2017, 11:34:06 pmQuote from: Dharma Flower on September 12, 2017, 11:03:44 pmQuote from: IdleChater on September 12, 2017, 07:05:51 pmThat's fine, but the Buddha's teachings still state (and I paraphrase) , Absolute Truth is emptiness and Relative Truth is everything else.While some Mahayana philosophers taught that the ultimate truth is emptiness, others taught the ultimate truth is pure consciousness:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_ConsciousnessesWhich shows that the expression 'ultimate truth' is only a conventional linguistic expression since its definition is dependent on the community of believers that provides it.There is no 'ultimate truth' that is ultimately or absolutely true since what is called 'truth' is only true for the concealer ordinary consciousness.It's more like different ways of describing the same ultimate reality, like the Buddha's parable of the blind men and the elephant.
Quote from: Dharma Flower on September 13, 2017, 12:06:16 amQuote from: ground on September 12, 2017, 11:34:06 pmQuote from: Dharma Flower on September 12, 2017, 11:03:44 pmQuote from: IdleChater on September 12, 2017, 07:05:51 pmThat's fine, but the Buddha's teachings still state (and I paraphrase) , Absolute Truth is emptiness and Relative Truth is everything else.While some Mahayana philosophers taught that the ultimate truth is emptiness, others taught the ultimate truth is pure consciousness:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_ConsciousnessesWhich shows that the expression 'ultimate truth' is only a conventional linguistic expression since its definition is dependent on the community of believers that provides it.There is no 'ultimate truth' that is ultimately or absolutely true since what is called 'truth' is only true for the concealer ordinary consciousness.It's more like different ways of describing the same ultimate reality, like the Buddha's parable of the blind men and the elephant.your statement is based on your belief that a so called 'ultimate reality' exists but that the different communities of believers just can't see it because of being blind which is why they insist on their definition, i.e. fabrication.But why should your belief outweigh the beliefs of others? your statement is just a variant of the pretentiousness common to all believers.
Beliefs. Just like everyone else's.
Counter-argument: The concept of Cup exists in dependence on our perceptions and mental formations (?). If there weren’t perceptions, how could we describe it? If there weren’t physical substance, how could we perceive? Concept, The Cup, depends on perceptions, which depends on physical substance; therefore, it is dependent arising.