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TMingyur

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Re: Thoughts on Ego
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2010, 01:56:57 pm »
For example, it was through logical analysis that I discovered that all dualistic modes of thinking lead to intractable paradoxes, ...
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Actually this is the basis on which all of Nagarjuna's reasonings and Prasangika Madhyamaka reasonings take place. Their reasoning is aimed at disarming any (philosophically) realistic affirming assertion. Therefore usually they do not apply autonomous syllogisms (prove statements) but reasonings that inevitably entail  "unwanted" (by the opponent) consequences.

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Re: Thoughts on Ego
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2010, 02:34:26 pm »
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to me this sounds like the cultivation of both patience and faith.

This path definitely requires patience and restraint.  During dry stretches when no progress is made, it can be tempting to return to the comforting arms of sensuality and pride.  And on the other side, it can be tempting to spin out of control obsessing about this or that idea or paradox.  There is a thin line, and I suppose it can only be faith that motivates me to walk it.

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If I may interject in this exchange, what you are describing as "strategical renunciation" strikes me as the annhilation of delusion -- that is the meeting what is perceived by the dualistic mind as "other from self" and clashing it head on with one's notions into the battlefield of one's pride, and losing against the "other from self perception", that loss resulting methodically taking down one's own weaker falser notions, that which is are not ultimately or relativeley(?) true, the gradual exposure of what is indestructible truth and what "can hold up in clear daylight."  Just an observation, nothing more.

Mostly right.  Ideally, the beliefs are not mine or not-mine, they just do their own thing, and the "winner" gets noted.  In practice though, the self clings to this or that belief.  And as far as I'm aware, there is not going to be any "indestructible truth".  All truths are empty, etc.  However, certain truths are much "better" than others in that they influence intentions and insight in a way that helps us along the path.

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Re: Thoughts on Ego
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2010, 02:39:36 pm »
And as far as I'm aware, there is not going to be any "indestructible truth".  All truths are empty, etc.  However, certain truths are much "better" than others in that they influence intentions and insight in a way that helps us along the path.

Apologies for my inaccurate point.  What I meant by indestructible was relatively indestructible.  As you progress you uncover the nonsense from the gems, the indestructible would be the gems of truth that carry throughout your whole life.  I could even go so far as to say that the gem is the essence of your experience of emptiness, that which continues to stay true in your life, in essence compassion at its finest skill.
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