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Re: Battling Pride
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2010, 02:18:54 pm »
Thanks for your input.  I just came off of a several day ego trip, which happens every once in a while.  I'm paranoid right now.

 :wacko: I'm just coming off a several decade ego trip... it's all good.  :lmfao:
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2010, 02:51:30 pm »
It's funny.  After a little reflection, I was able to pinpoint the exact moment that I lost my composure, 2.5-3 weeks ago.  Family can be a real bitch.

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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2010, 12:05:06 am »
Family can be a real bitch.

That is a possibility.  But much more likely the real knot is your reaction to your family.  :headbow:
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2010, 02:28:04 am »
Family can be a real bitch.
That is a possibility.  But much more likely the real knot is your reaction to your family.  :headbow:
I'm a bachelor. I'm happy. If I had a family I'd be highly annoyed. Some people just aren't made for it.
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2010, 02:30:57 am »
Yes, family life can be mere distraction. But as we can notice above it can also provide opportunities for practice.

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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2010, 03:02:58 pm »
different strokes for different folks...  :headbow:
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Re: Battling Pride
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2010, 09:55:05 am »

Great post!  Honest, insightful, loaded with meaning.

My problems with pride seem to be waning along with my testosterone.  Therefore it is my observation that youth and health have been a detriment to my practice of loving-kindness, compassion, taking joy in the accomplishment of others, and especially with regard to mental equanimity.

Admission of being wrong, or unaware was tatamount to being on the wrong football team, or being bested by a supeior wrestler, or out run or out performed by a better conditioned athelete.  Losing always hurt, caused resentments and self recriminations to arise within, and set me off on a path of focused resolve to find ways and hone skills so that it would never happen again.  Life was in short a real-time chess game.

Living my life on a chess board took a great deal of energy and occupied most of my time and mental resources.  Those close to me suffered as a result as much as they benefited from my worldly success.  Consequently I suffered and upon realizing all that I had missed chose a different path.  This chosing and my sixtieth birthday seemed to be closely aligned.  That is why I suspect that testosterone levels had a great deal to do with it.

Again, great post and great insight.

Probably the biggest hindrance to my growth is pride.  It leads to contentedness of wisdom, and stagnation of spiritual development.  Today I had a thought which will hopefully help:

No matter who I am, there will always be some member of some species, or some intelligent being, who, upon seeing me, would laugh at my stupidity the way I laugh at apes.  All of my intelligence, success, power and prowess is insignificant, laughable even, in comparison to some other being.  By identifying with intelligence, success, power and prowess, I am sentencing myself to being some arbitrary degree of stupid, failure, weakness, and ineptitude, even in the unlikely case that I am the least so among my peers.

What techniques do you use to subdue pride?
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Re: Battling Pride
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2010, 02:05:33 pm »
My problems with pride seem to be waning along with my testosterone.  Therefore it is my observation that youth and health have been a detriment to my practice of loving-kindness, compassion, taking joy in the accomplishment of others, and especially with regard to mental equanimity.

I so can't wait to be old now... :lmfao:
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Re: Battling Pride
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2010, 12:00:30 am »
Well yes but practice is getting more and more difficult when getting older

Also, consider this:

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How to cultivate mindfulness of death
   The contemplation that death is certain
       The contemplation that the Lord of Death will definitely come, and therefore
       cannot be avoided
       The contemplation that our lifetime connot be extended and constantly
       diminishes
       The contemplation of the certainty of death such that even while you are alive
       there is little time for religious practice
   The contemplation that the time of death is uncertain
       The contemplation that the life span in this world is uncertain
       The contemplation that the causes of death are very many and the causes of
       life are few
       The contemplation that the time of death is uncertain because the body is very 
       fragile
   The contemplation that at the time of death nothing helps except religious practice
       Friends will not help,
       Resources will not help,
       Your body will not help

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Re: Battling Pride
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2010, 03:21:10 am »

Great stuff!  Thanks.

Would appreciate if you would cite your resources, though.

Thanks again.


Well yes but practice is getting more and more difficult when getting older

Also, consider this:

Quote
How to cultivate mindfulness of death
   The contemplation that death is certain
       The contemplation that the Lord of Death will definitely come, and therefore
       cannot be avoided
       The contemplation that our lifetime connot be extended and constantly
       diminishes
       The contemplation of the certainty of death such that even while you are alive
       there is little time for religious practice
   The contemplation that the time of death is uncertain
       The contemplation that the life span in this world is uncertain
       The contemplation that the causes of death are very many and the causes of
       life are few
       The contemplation that the time of death is uncertain because the body is very 
       fragile
   The contemplation that at the time of death nothing helps except religious practice
       Friends will not help,
       Resources will not help,
       Your body will not help

Kind regards

What Makes an Elder? :
A head of gray hairs doesn't mean one's an elder. Advanced in years, one's called an old fool.
But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

TMingyur

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Re: Battling Pride
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2010, 04:03:12 am »

Great stuff!  Thanks.

Would appreciate if you would cite your resources, though.

Thanks again.
Hi Ron

an outline taken from the Lam Rim Chen Mo of Tsongkhapa.

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