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What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« on: July 21, 2016, 03:03:06 pm »
What is wrong with those people who pray to statues? Don't you think they are not praying to God and praying to themselves? 
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Re: What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2016, 05:15:01 pm »
In my current mind , in human culture , human accepted knowledge as the basis of judgement ... so by knowledge there is right verses wrong , true verses false or good verses bad ........but Buddhism is not knowledge .......Buddhism is the natural process of realization so there is no right or wrong , no true or false and no good or bad .

Everything / anyone is constantly travelling in a natural process back into the original state before existence so regardless what you do .....you are always in a natural process of realizing your existence , realizing your cause of existence ........that is my current mind of Buddhism.

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Re: What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2016, 11:29:36 am »
In my current mind , in human culture , human accepted knowledge as the basis of judgement ... so by knowledge there is right verses wrong , true verses false or good verses bad ........but Buddhism is not knowledge .......Buddhism is the natural process of realization so there is no right or wrong , no true or false and no good or bad .

Everything / anyone is constantly travelling in a natural process back into the original state before existence so regardless what you do .....you are always in a natural process of realizing your existence , realizing your cause of existence ........that is my current mind of Buddhism.

ok but what is wrong with those people who express thanks to an image? Are they praying to themselves? Are they their own gods?

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Re: What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2016, 11:54:38 am »
What is wrong with those people who pray to statues? Don't you think they are not praying to God and praying to themselves?

What is the purpose of praying?

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Re: What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2016, 07:24:57 pm »
In my current mind , in human culture , human accepted knowledge as the basis of judgement ... so by knowledge there is right verses wrong , true verses false or good verses bad ........but Buddhism is not knowledge .......Buddhism is the natural process of realization so there is no right or wrong , no true or false and no good or bad .

Everything / anyone is constantly travelling in a natural process back into the original state before existence so regardless what you do .....you are always in a natural process of realizing your existence , realizing your cause of existence ........that is my current mind of Buddhism.

ok but what is wrong with those people who express thanks to an image? Are they praying to themselves? Are they their own gods?


In my current mind , Buddhism is about YOU ..Buddhism is your realization process ... is the natural process of you realizing your existence and your cause of existence......so as one awaken to Buddhism , he realize he is emotion , he is desire / love / anger / fear / greed etc and he realize he is constantly travelling in a natural process into the original state before existence .....a state of nothingness ....so he awaken to this he no longer hold the mind as he realize by holding the mind is just like trying to stop moving train by his leg .... that is suffering .......so in short as one awaken to Buddhism , he no longer holds the mind ......so nothing will be right or wrong , nothing is true or false , nothing is good or bad .....there is no referral in the mind as he holds nothing as referral.....so he no longer choose what to learn or who to learn from .......so all happening / all nature are just condition of your realization ......they just provide you with great sources of realization ..

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Re: What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2016, 08:42:55 am »
What is wrong with those people who pray to statues? Don't you think they are not praying to God and praying to themselves?

You're a Muslim I believe.  What on earth are you doing posting a question like this on a Buddhist discussion forum?

I do hope you're not trolling.
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Re: What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2016, 05:51:18 pm »
Perhaps I am here not to provide answer to you ... I am here learning from you ....and as you asked , I learn....so in Buddhism concept as what I currently realized , there is nothing wrong to ask , there is nothing wrong not to ask ........is all own learning process .....is always me in my own process same as you ....

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Re: What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2016, 04:21:11 pm »
The real question is, why do you care about what other people are doing?  How does it affect you?

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Re: What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2016, 05:23:49 am »
They are called rupas in Buddhism, but statues will do for explanation purposes.

The article What Does a Buddha Statue Represent? quoted below, provides a good explanation.

“Believers of the Abrahamic religions may mistakenly interpret images of the Buddha as proof of idol worship. Buddhists do not assign mystical or divine properties to statues or carvings of the Buddha.

In fact, Buddhists do not worship the Buddha at all. Nor is the Buddha deified in the Buddhist tradition. Buddhists do not consider the Buddha to be a god, but rather a human being who sought and achieved enlightenment -- freedom from suffering -- and then bestowed his wisdom upon his followers in the form of teachings.

While the Buddha is indeed the founding figurehead of the Buddhist tradition, he is never elevated to the status of a deity. Because Buddhism does not hinge upon a belief in a supreme being or god, it is not considered a religion, but rather a way of life, compatible with other major faith traditions.

Buddhists find that gazing upon the image of the Buddha gives them a clear role model in their own paths toward enlightenment. Aspirants gain inspiration as they contemplate the qualities embodied by the Buddha during his lifetime. In societies with no written language, specific teachings and wisdom were conveyed in the rich symbolism present in different statues.”

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Re: What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2016, 02:49:06 am »
Can't say what other people think when they are in front of a statue, but I was taught that it was right to pay respects 'To those to whom respectful salutation is due'. In other words it's saying, 'Thanks mate for bringing your particular teachings to the world'. And that's it really. I would personally have run a mile if the explanation had been anything else, but I guess that's my problem with the strange idea of praying to gods, etc.
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Re: What is wrong with those people who pray to statues?
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2016, 03:16:29 am »
Hahah that's quite interesting idea that you pray in front of a statues.
I am like, give me courage to learn even more.

 


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