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Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« on: November 03, 2013, 10:18:31 am »
When I go out for a walk, I chat Amituofo's nam, and I think of Buddha and the Bodhisattvas, but I've been thinking about the Nature of the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas and was wondering if Amtuofo can also be here to make the place I live pure.

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 02:13:13 am »
Yes.

In a sense Amitaba (my preferred spelling - same principal) is represented by you in your practice and environment.

By introducing these purifying elements, you will be creating a spiral of inner and outer reflection. So for example you might print or display on screen an image of Amitaba. Play the mantra. Make offerings.

What we have is the development of a process of inner and outer resonance with purity.
http://www.amitabha-gallery.org/screen_saver.htm
http://www.quietmountain.org/links/teachings/amitabha/amitabha.htm
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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 07:56:05 am »
Yes.

In a sense Amitaba (my preferred spelling - same principal) is represented by you in your practice and environment.

By introducing these purifying elements, you will be creating a spiral of inner and outer reflection. So for example you might print or display on screen an image of Amitaba. Play the mantra. Make offerings.

What we have is the development of a process of inner and outer resonance with purity.
http://www.amitabha-gallery.org/screen_saver.htm
http://www.quietmountain.org/links/teachings/amitabha/amitabha.htm



Thank you very much.  :)

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 10:55:06 am »
I "think" to get a handle or a grasp on the existence of a Pure Land you have be willing to "travel" or "journey" to that destination.

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 11:08:10 am »
I think the pure land People are talking about a literal place or plane of existence you go to in your next life, not a state of mind you can be in right now.
to me, the signs of a successful practice are happiness and a cessation of suffering, buddhism often gives me this; not all the answers.

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2013, 12:22:26 pm »
I think the pure land People are talking about a literal place or plane of existence you go to in your next life, not a state of mind you can be in right now.

Do you mean after cessation and initial death in this present lifetime? ..

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 12:59:05 pm »
After you die, in plain terms.....
to me, the signs of a successful practice are happiness and a cessation of suffering, buddhism often gives me this; not all the answers.

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 01:25:46 pm »
You can definitely make your mind pure in the here and now - so this in a way becomes its own "Pure Land".  But this doesn't mean that there isn't also a Pure Land of Amitabha Buddha that you can go to at the moment of death.  The 6th Patriarch, Hui Neng explains:

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=yRnOPXXQE5AC&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=sixth+patriarch+jewel+platform+sutra+hui+neng+pure+land&source=bl&ots=JGEPw8zwfX&sig=erwzrTdFx3kUUGo4ng0_WnzwzgU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uwF4UpChPIWeiAfw8YGACw&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=sixth%20patriarch%20jewel%20platform%20sutra%20hui%20neng%20pure%20land&f=false

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 02:30:29 pm »
After you die, in plain terms.....


That was my understanding of it as far as Pure Land Buddhism goes. Death then rebirth in the Pure Lands of Amitabha to continue towards enlightenment without the distractions of life. Not an eternity however, as in Christian heaven, just as long as it takes. But that's a Pure Land view. So what then are the other, or more specifically, the Pure Land Kingdoms for? Like Padmasambhava's Copper Mountain, Zangdok Palri of the Nyingma school.

Perhaps it is viewed differently by different schools?

Wikipedia i see mentions that they are accessible through trance or meditation.

A Pure Land, in Mahayana Buddhism, is the celestial realm or pure abode of a Buddha or Bodhisattva. The term "pure land" is particular to the Chinese (Ch. 净土, jìngtǔ) and related East Asian traditions; in Sanskrit the equivalent concept is called the "Buddha field" (Skt. buddha-kṣetra). The various traditions that focus on Pure Lands have been given the nomenclature Pure Land Buddhism. Pure lands are also evident in the literature and traditions of Taoism and Bön.

The notion of 'pure lands' was inherited from other Dharmic Traditions already evident in the Dharma. The notion of a pure land may have evolved from the Uttarakuru, a divine continent in ancient Dharmic cosmology.[1] The pure realms are all accessible through experiential meditation and trance sadhana.

___http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_land

Zangdok Palri, the Glorious Copper Coloured Mountain, is the pure land of Guru Rinpoche, the second Buddha and the great tantric master who brought Buddhism to Tibet.
___http://www.chinabuddhismencyclopedia.com/en/index.php?title=Zangdok_Palri

Padmasambhava -
Pure-land Paradise -
His Pureland Paradise is Zangdok Palri (the Copper-Coloured Mountain).[30]

___http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padmasambhava

OK. After the "Where is Shambhala?" thread i'm beginning to think - Become a Buddha and create your own Pure Land Kingdom?

Where are they anyway? In a realm?

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 02:37:03 pm »
Yes.

In a sense Amitaba (my preferred spelling - same principal) is represented by you in your practice and environment.

By introducing these purifying elements, you will be creating a spiral of inner and outer reflection. So for example you might print or display on screen an image of Amitaba. Play the mantra. Make offerings.

What we have is the development of a process of inner and outer resonance with purity.
http://www.amitabha-gallery.org/screen_saver.htm
http://www.quietmountain.org/links/teachings/amitabha/amitabha.htm


As a reply to the actual question of the thread, i agree with Lobster. But then we probably both live in cyberspace.

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2013, 02:48:33 pm »
I think they (The Pure Land Buddhas) do that with the Intellect.

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 02:49:12 pm »
you can live in the USA and pretend your in Mexico all you want, but until you actually go to Mexico, you're not really there. ditto pure land
to me, the signs of a successful practice are happiness and a cessation of suffering, buddhism often gives me this; not all the answers.

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2013, 03:04:08 pm »
I think they (The Pure Land Buddhas) do that with the Intellect.


Do What?
Probably not cyberspace....

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 03:12:53 pm »
I think they (The Pure Land Buddhas) do that with the Intellect.


Do What?
Probably not cyberspace....

Create the Pure Land in the Mind.

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Re: Can anywhere be Buddha's Pure Land?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2013, 09:50:54 pm »
you can live in the USA and pretend your in Mexico all you want, but until you actually go to Mexico, you're not really there. ditto pure land

Clearly you haven't spent much time in Los Angeles  :teehee:

 


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