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Offline NepalianBuddhist

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We seem to have varying views on Karma
« on: June 25, 2014, 02:44:29 am »
While I generally understand that Karma is something positive - the position of certain Buddhists at Dharmawheel seem to insinuate that Karma is something to be extinguished. Where is the source of the introduction of the idea of Karma? how old is it? Are we born with it? stuff like that.


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Re: We seem to have varying views on Karma
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2014, 09:24:31 am »
The word Nirvana means "to extinguish" or "blowing out", such as extinguishing the flame of a candle --- it is a liberation from the cycle of death and rebirth and freedom from the effects of karma. In other words,  as long as blind passions are not extinguished, we generate karma.

more here >>> http://buddhism.about.com/od/abuddhistglossary/g/nirvanadef.htm

and here >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_(Buddhism)

also >>> http://ichinyo.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/231/

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Re: We seem to have varying views on Karma
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2014, 11:02:33 pm »
While I generally understand that Karma is something positive - the position of certain Buddhists at Dharmawheel seem to insinuate that Karma is something to be extinguished. Where is the source of the introduction of the idea of Karma? how old is it? Are we born with it? stuff like that.

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Then Ven. Ananda went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, bowed down to him and sat to one side. As he was sitting there he said to the Blessed One, "Lord, this word, 'becoming, becoming' — to what extent is there becoming?"[1]

"Ananda, if there were no kamma ripening in the sensuality-property, would sensuality-becoming be discerned?"

"No, lord."

"Thus kamma is the field, consciousness the seed, and craving the moisture.[2] The consciousness of living beings hindered by ignorance & fettered by craving is established in/tuned to a lower property. Thus there is the production of renewed becoming in the future.

"If there were no kamma ripening in the form-property, would form-becoming be discerned?"

"No, lord."

"Thus kamma is the field, consciousness the seed, and craving the moisture. The consciousness of living beings hindered by ignorance & fettered by craving is established in/tuned to a middling property. Thus there is the production of renewed becoming in the future.

"If there were no kamma ripening in the formless-property, would formless-becoming be discerned?"

"No, lord."

"Thus kamma is the field, consciousness the seed, and craving the moisture. The consciousness of living beings hindered by ignorance & fettered by craving is established in/tuned to a refined property. Thus there is the production of renewed becoming in the future. This is how there is becoming."

to get out of suffering is to get out of samsara,
to get to nibanna, is to stop rebirth, to stop rebirth is to stop becoming
to stop becoming is to stop intention/kamma

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Re: We seem to have varying views on Karma
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 09:55:13 am »
While I generally understand that Karma is something positive - the position of certain Buddhists at Dharmawheel seem to insinuate that Karma is something to be extinguished. Where is the source of the introduction of the idea of Karma? how old is it? Are we born with it? stuff like that.

Karma is derived from the cause and effect of your actions and is stored in your storehouse consciousnesss, those karmic seeds lead to your rebirth into Samsara whether it be good karma and the rebirth into a heavenly samsaric realm,  or it be bad karma and rebirth into a hell samsaric realm.

When you eradicate all such samsaric karma/illusions/defilement you will attian Enlightenment.

 


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