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Offline Cetaka

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Opinions? Series of dreams from bodhisattva
« on: July 02, 2016, 03:31:26 pm »
Essentially, my question is as follows: Do you think it is possible, in the absence of a guru, for a yidam to come to one in a series of dreams?  If you can't or don't want to answer that, then do you think it is possible for one to receive messages in this way?

This is based on a recent personal experience, and I am not sure that this is what is going on, but I would like to know anyone's opinion on it. I am aware of the fact that they are typically assigned by one's guru, at least that is my understanding, but over the last week I have seen three very odd occurrences and I would like others' opinions on whether or not these experiences are legitimate or meaningful. I have eliminated some things from the outline below for the sake of brevity and clarity, but I can provide details if necessary.

Day 1: While meditating, I called upon Chenrezig and thought I felt his presence.
Dream 1: That night, I saw Chenrezig bring me to a room where he showed me a statue of a sitting wrathful bodhisattva, which I had never seen or
heard of before.
Day 2: After much research, I came across Miyowa, an (often) sitting wrathful bodhisattva. I asked Chenrezig to go back to the statue so I could see it
Dream 2: That night, I reappeared in the same room as before and saw the statue.
Day 3: I asked Miyowa personally to send me a sign if I had come to the right conclusion (i.e., that Chenrezig had introduced him to me for a reason).
Dream 3: I went to a guru and learned from him, then in a second dream I became that guru and taught another pupil.

Thank you for reading all this- any opinions or personal experiences would be welcome.  :namaste:

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Re: Opinions? Series of dreams from bodhisattva
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2016, 02:59:11 am »
I went through a phase of dreaming about meditating. One time I went to a meditation hall in a monastery- by the scenery it looked like somewhere in Tibet, although I've never been there. Another time saw me going through a series of nightmares where I found myself trapped in tight places like caves or tunnels. Instead of panicking in the dream, I just sat in meditation wherever I was, and it just went away. I don't know if such dreams actually mean anything, but at least it cured the nightmares.

Apart from dreams, I sometimes get visions during meditation. A recurring one is that of Shiva, in the act of dancing. It's another reason why I chose the name stillpointdancer for forum postings.
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Re: Opinions? Series of dreams from bodhisattva
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2017, 10:54:50 am »
Every image in reality is a Yidam if seen correctly.  Each archetype we can examine has meaning beyond its outward appearance, useful for meditation.  I have had many such experiences.  One morning, I woke up to a poem ringing in my head.  I rushed to the computer and recorded it before I forgot what it was.

The Pendulum of Life Swings
A Poem waking from a dream

A seed is planted in a garden with care
Its fruit of expectations unknown
An invocation of Spirit to clothe
Something from nothing the goal

Mortal toil evokes the moving flow
Of swinging extremes to circle an end
With providence and patience a Gardener must tend
The Miracle of One from two

Like is to unlike
As right is to left
Blind wakes to new Light
As a vision obscured

The pendulum swings; must come to its end
Refinement and purpose revealed
The veil of choice leaves the first fruits behind
As one new creation transcends

On another occasion, I was in my back yard at night, but everything was different.  It was as if the yard was somewhere in the future, with new additions.  As I approached my back door to the house, I was confronted by a white ox with a ring in its nose.  Later, I would discover that this was the third buffalo of Zen, or the domesticated stage of the Bodhisattva.  It was frightening to confront, but I simply walked around it with courage and entered the house.  I the woke up.  Literally, a month later, I was awakened if you know what I mean, to the truth of the three ox and 10 ox herding pictures. 

It's important to pay attention to dreams.  A dream is a shadow of this world.  See shadows in two descending levels.  Sattva has the shadow of Rajas, less vivid than your view from the higher realm.  Rajas has the shadow of Tamas, which is the lowest realm of the Triloka as shadow of time.  In a dream, you are looking at a shadow of Tamas, or Ignorance.  With this said, imagine the poem above and the depth of content.  Shadows still come from our mind, which is a beautiful thing.  We learn the threads and gain the patches for our robe from examining the shadows (Maya).  I believe it to be important, but not something to cling to for worship.  Never worship a shadow.  YOU are the one casting the shadow. 

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Re: Opinions? Series of dreams from bodhisattva
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2017, 08:49:10 pm »
Buddha discouraged from getting into interpretation of dreams, he even called this as animal art or debased art. If you were to get answer, it would come in the form of an answer, not in the form of a perplexing dream. Let us get over the dreams and strive on until we get clear unambiguous answers.

The practice of meditating on yidam, or calling a yidam etc. are not in line with Buddha's original teachings. He clearly mentioned that enlightenment is a personal journey. One has to strive on his own to purify his mind and attain nirvana. However, this might be a big thing for you to give up meditating on Yidam etc. But instead of getting excited at dreams of imaginary yidams and taking it as a sign of progress... be practical, keep your mind open, and keep reading Buddha's teachings.


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