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The all time superhero
« on: August 21, 2015, 04:35:18 am »
Jesus Christ is the ONLY True GOD!
The ONLY GOD who rose from the dead and lives forever.
Jesus Christ is the ONLY ONE who qualifies to give us eternal life.
He will also heal your bodies . FOR FREE
You have to ask Him ...

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Re: The all time superhero
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2015, 05:27:05 am »
Thank you for thinking about our health, but I think we'll be fine here.

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Re: The all time superhero
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2015, 01:07:28 pm »
This is another category in which Abrahemic religions got it wrong:

One of Buddha's teachings which addresses this issue is that practice of The Noble Eight Fold Path does not cure disease in the ordinary sense, and his monastics (Bhikkus and Bhikkunis) were forbidden to claim that they could cure diseases by any other means than by use of the same medicines which could be provided by physicians or skilled laymen. 

Unfortunately, due to beliefs of  tradtional local cultures some legends of bodhisattvas arose, to which followers prayed, as they would to deities for cures of illnesses.  These were known as medicine Buddhas in some traditions, such as Green Tara:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4-gnYHzj4s

One of the stories, which illustrates Buddha's position in this regard was about a woman, who came to see him begging for him to cure her son, who had died.  He said that he would cure he son if she went to the village households and brought a small dose of mustard seeds from a home, where death had never visited.  Of course she could find no such home and realized the dhamma regarding birth, aging, disease and death.

The only disease that Buddha stated, which could be cured were the diseases of the mind, which led to suffering (dukkha).:

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The Blessed Buddha once said:
Bhikkhus and Friends: Once the mental release by infinite Friendliness
has been developed, frequently practised, firmly established, expanded,
made a vehicle, foundation, and brought to full perfection, then it will be
impossible for ill-will to take possession of the mind, since this fine mental
release by infinite Friendliness is the irreversible liberation from all ill-will!
Once the mental release by compassionate Pity and tender understanding
has been developed, frequently practised, firmly established, expanded,
made a vehicle, foundation, and brought to full perfection, then it will be
impossible for cruelty to take possession of the mind, since the mental
release by compassionate Pity is the irreversible liberation from all cruelty!
Once the mental release by mutual Joy rejoicing in other being's success
has been developed, frequently practised, firmly established, expanded,
made a vehicle, foundation, and brought to full perfection, then it will be
impossible for discontent to obsess the mind, since this fine mental release
by mutual Joy is indeed the irreversible liberation from all discontent!
Once the mental release by serene, still and imperturbable Equanimity
has been developed, frequently practised, firmly established, expanded,
made a vehicle, foundation, and brought to full perfection, then it will be
impossible for greed & lust to take possession of and obsess the mind, for
release by imperturbable Equanimity is the deliverance from all greed!


Mental Dhamma Medicine:  http://what-buddha-said.net/drops/IV/Mental_Medicine.htm



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Of all the Medicines in the world,
even and ever so numerous and different
none is comparable to this Dhamma.
Therefore, friends, take this Dhamma!

Having swallowed and digested
this sublime Dhamma Medicine,
you will go beyond ageing and death.
You will be freed and cured of all Craving

Good and Bad Luck in life is actually obvious:
Those who respect the Dhamma flourish!
Those who despise the Dhamma deteriorate...

Having been shown this straight Middle Way,
that thrust into Deathlessness.
You, through prudence and patience,
will reach it, touch it, and know it directly,
as the stream of the river Ganges,
always reaches the mighty ocean.
Only this Dhamma-Medicine cures Death...
Yeah!
« Last Edit: August 21, 2015, 01:13:53 pm by Ron-the-Elder »
What Makes an Elder? :
A head of gray hairs doesn't mean one's an elder. Advanced in years, one's called an old fool.
But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

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Re: The all time superhero
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2015, 04:42:45 am »
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Anti-Proselytizing
http://blog.seattlepi.com/nealstarkman/2015/01/19/anti-proselytizing/

Let me be clear: This is not an anti-religion rant. This is an anti-proselytizing rant.

Consider this joke I made up:

A Jew, a Christian, and a Muslim walk into a restaurant. The waiter says, “How may I serve you?”
The Jew says, “I’ll have some soup. I don’t care what they’re having.”
The Christian says, “I’ll have a ham and cheese sandwich, and so will they.”
The Muslim says, “Poison for all of us.”
The atheist at the next table shakes his head.


I fully understand that to “explain” a joke often sucks the humor out of it, but in this case I think I need to dissect it a bit.

Jews don’t proselytize. Quite the contrary, it’s pretty tough to convert to Judaism. Is that because Jews are stuck up, certain they’re the “chosen people”? like the idea of being distinctive? don’t want to dilute the gene pool? It doesn’t matter; the significant point is that Jews don’t go around trying to make others adopt their religion.

On the other hand, Christians do that a lot. Not all Christians are proselytizers, but a fair amount are. Is that because Christians are so sure their way is the right way? consider it an obligation to convert others? feel insecure without other people joining them? get a kick out of sharing their holy bliss? Again, it doesn’t matter; the significant point is that many Christians want very badly for the whole world to be Christian, whether or not the whole world wants to be Christian.

And Muslims: These days some are like the Christians of the past—and maybe the future—who will stop at nothing to convert others and to destroy the nonbelievers and those they perceive as infidels. Is that because they’re addicted to authoritarianism and will gladly cease independent thought to obey their religious “superiors”? because they’re somehow threatened by non-Muslims? because they fear eternal damnation if they don’t do everything they can to defend Islam? The point is moot to those who have been uprooted, tortured, or slaughtered by radical Muslims.

What is the purpose of all this? If I’ve found something I believe in, if I think I’ve got the answer to life—and, for that matter, after-life—what does it matter to me if others don’t buy into it? Sure, I can tell people about it: “Hey, listen, this is really cool. This is how people should behave. This is how the universe truly works.” But if people say, nah, that’s not for me, shouldn’t I LEAVE THEM THE HELL ALONE?

Look, I tell people all the time what’s the right way to behave; I’m doing it now. But if you reject stuff I say, then fine, go ahead and pray to your God for football victories, eat only certain kinds of foods, grow a beard, wear a yarmulke, cover your face. It doesn’t affect me all that much; if anything, it just provides material for me to ridicule. And if after reading this, you still insist on extreme proselytizing, then fine. I might think less of you for it, but I’m not going to be gunning for you.

Here’s where religionists and proselytizers cross the line: It’s when they make people’s lives miserable. It’s when they suppress women. It’s when they deprive people of knowledge and freedom. It’s when they kill children. It’s when they take over populations and force them to accept a belief system on pain of death. And I’m not talking about only Yemen and Syria and Nigeria and other places across the globe; we have it right here in the United States. Do you not think that if they could, some religious leaders would force schools to teach that the earth was created in a week by a being who was both omnipotent (except for certain natural disasters perpetrated by the Devil), omniscient (except for certain athletic contests), and loving (except for the occasional smiting, commands to smite, and worldwide floods)? Do you not think that these leaders would threaten death and destruction to those who didn’t “see the light”? After all, the ends would justify the means, right? I’m sure that the appropriate Biblical verses could be identified; they always are.

Freedom is a bottom line, and if you disagree with that, so be it. From my perspective, any religion that forces itself upon others without regard to others’ freedom of choice is despicable. And any religion that persecutes its members is also despicable.

Why is the atheist in my joke shaking his head? It’s because all this proselytizing is so unnecessary. You have a good case for your religion? Fine. Lay it out for all to see. If they want it, great for you—and perhaps for them. If they don’t, move on. It’s their loss, right? You tried. I like apple pie; does that mean everyone has to like apple pie?

Think how much happier this world would be if people would just let others alone.


 


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