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Hello i am new here
« on: November 11, 2018, 08:15:18 am »
I feel very depressed due to my smoking habits
I have been chain smoking for the past three years
But i want to quit today

This is a depressing habit and an addiction

I only know some breathing techniques to control my mind

I feel very restless when i listen to music , so i am trying to avoid music and movies and i want to calm down a lot more

Not sure where to start , please help

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Re: Hello i am new here
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2018, 09:02:08 am »
Welcome!  At the risk of being a buzzkill, this is site to discuss Buddhism.  That said, and speaking as someone who quit after smoking for 40 years, there's only one way to quit: don't smoke one more cigarette.  Period.  No matter how you feel or what's going on around you, don't smoke another cigarette.  Ever.  That's how you start.

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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2018, 10:54:54 am »
Thanks for the reply Chaz ,

I will try that no matter how down or high my head feels
That is all part of the life .

OK , few more questions .
First of all i like Buddhism and few Dalai lama quotes
especially this one

Choose to be optimistic, it feels better.

Where can i learn more about Buddhism , i have read a lot about Buddhism when i was around 15 .
Then lost the touch after that , i am 33 years old now

Why i like to chose a path of Buddhism is because i do not like music and movies anymore , it is polluting my mind a lot

What should i read at this point ?

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Re: Hello i am new here
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2018, 10:58:13 am »
I feel very depressed due to my smoking habits
I have been chain smoking for the past three years
But i want to quit today

This is a depressing habit and an addiction

I only know some breathing techniques to control my mind

I feel very restless when i listen to music , so i am trying to avoid music and movies and i want to calm down a lot more

Not sure where to start , please help

Chaz is right. Although nicotine patches and such can help, there's really no substitute for plain old will power. The good news is that will power can be developed with perseverance and mindfulness.

Getting rid of a long term, ingrained habit like smoking can be difficult because the brain will resist changing a habit pattern in favor of what it has been programmed to do. The physical addiction to nicotine is said to disappear after a few weeks but the habitual patterns of behavior keep kicking in. The part of the brain that stores habits doesn’t distinguish between bad and good habits, so if you have a bad one, it’s always lurking there. Unless you consciously fight a habit, the conditioned pattern will unfold automatically.

Repeating a particular activity, even if only with the imagination, wires it more securely into the brain. Thus each attempt at self-discipline is worthwhile. There’s no such thing as failure unless one actually gives up and stops trying. Every attempt at self-discipline is a step towards accomplishing it. Even just thinking about it is a step in the right direction

I started smoking at a young age. After ten years of smoking a pack-a-day, I decided to quit, but it took a year of concerted effort to finally stop completely. I was rolling my own by then and every time I’d decide to quit smoking, I’d ceremoniously empty my tobacco tin into the creek. By nightfall I’d be down on my knees, in abject humiliation, pawing through the trash for butts. Finally the repeated attempts to quit began to outweigh the acquired conditioning to smoke. Eventually, I was able to easily go without cigarettes.

Research has shown that willpower is like a muscle that can be strengthened by repeatedly exercising it. Each attempt, even if it fails, is important for building self-discipline. Every time you resist the urge to smoke you're changing your brain and how you think.

Here's some more of what I've written on conditioning and habits that might be helpful -- http://www.frogzen.com/uncategorized/self-discipline/




« Last Edit: November 11, 2018, 11:06:15 am by zafrogzen »
My first formal meditation training was with Shunryu Suzuki in the 60's and later with Kobun, Robert Aitken and many other teachers (mainly zen). However, I've spent the most time practicing on my own, which is all I do now. I'm living in a rather isolated area so I miss connecting with other practitioners. Despite my interest in zen I've made an effort to remain secular. You can visit my website at http://www.frogzen.com

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Re: Hello i am new here
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2018, 11:19:44 am »
Thanks for the reply zafrogzen ,

One of the nicest replies i have read in a while .

I have been trying to quit this habit for at least 3 months now, so all these attempts to avoid it must a nice thing , a positive thing

I have been narrowing down the situations that lead to my smoking habits .

I used to smoke when i was feeling down a lot ,
I used to smoke when i was feeling dull

I live in India ,
Its not like Europe or America

We do not have night parties all the time like in Europe or America , At least that is what i keep seeing on TV and You tube these days and the only few friends i had is in far away places .

So i am not socializing much these days .

My main activity is staring into the computer screen for very long hours

That is because i do not have anything else to do .

Which was one of the reasons too .

Too much music from You Tube is making my mental conditions bad these days , I am even planning to block You Tube in my PC .


Yes i must develop a lot more will power like you said , slowly

This forum already feels like it has the right people to talk to .

I have been using nicotine gums since 2 days ago and it is helping a lot , at least the smoke is not going in .

Cigarettes are a good way to lose your energy

All that being said , I like to keep my life simple too

I also think all the major religions in the world are polluted a lot

Therefore i am turning back to Buddhism .

I am a person who minds my own business mostly , but then i have to deal with other people who are not really my type

Please excuse the usage of my language , i am from India only and English is not my main language , so it might have some errors in it .

Anyway i already feel good talking to you .

Because your post had a lot of points

Thanks

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Re: Hello i am new here
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2019, 04:06:56 am »
Hi,
I just finished reading a book titled 'The Cosmic Serpent, DNA and the origins of knowledge' by Jeremy narby. The book is really about sharmanism in the Amazon and the plant knowledge the possess. But the bit that may be of interest to you is he discusses their widespread use of tobacco and apparently they use only tobacco in their smoking taking direct from the plants, whereas all of the cigarettes we use in the rest of the world have been loaded with all kinds of other junk materials like zinc and aluminium oxide and it is these which cause the addiction and also are the likely links to cancer. So if you have to smoke, sounds like you should only use the pure stuff.

hope this helps
K

 


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