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Kalu Rinpoches talks about his life!!!
« on: November 28, 2011, 08:08:50 am »
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=235712606496305


I'll have a go at transcribing it for you in case you can't get it.I posted it on another forum but some couldn't see it.It's on both of Rinpoche's Facebook pages.I'll transcribe it word for word,exactly as Rinpoche spoke it.I hope you can understand it.

''Hi dear friends it was nice to have you back in this moment and talk with you and I'm so sorry that this is not really high quality video.It's just a face book video.Well anyway, I just wanted to tell you about my life,life story in a few minutes. Urrm....you know like when I was, you know like many people thinks that Rinpoche did live in a luxury life and everything.Or you know like luxury life and always like enjoying being,never being unhappy or most things like that.And some people think that Rinpoche's are like you know more than human beings.Well then, whatever you name them it's like for me there.... for me the meaning of a Guru is about his understanding about the life and you know I love my root Guru, but he's not more than a human being he's an extraordinary human being and errrrr you know, just to let you know about my life *sniffs* my life story like when I was a kid you know I was living like a Prince till I was 9. You know errrr many people thinks that all the Rinpoche's has a same level life but all the Rinpoche's they have a middle class,the luxury class, the errr the lowest class, you know like the ( can't make out what he say here ) So like I was living in the best life of Rinpoche.When my father was alive I was living like a Prince sleeping,eating,playing games all the time.When I was 9 my father passed away and errrr I had a very difficult life you know.People thinks that Kalu Rinpoche always lived in a very comfortable life.That's what all people been thinking of because the previous Kalu Rinpoche he was popular. For me my father past away I was transported to different Monastery and errrr when I was like 12 and 13 I've been sexually abused by other monks......so for me I don't believe in monks so much you know, so you know and when I was 15 I did 3 years retreat from the guidance of my Root Guru you know and then like errrm.............and I did 3 years retreat and no body cares about me so much you know.Nobody knows where I am,how I am you know and after 3 years retreat, all the people are interested because you know they kind of think that I have this great qualification and something which I can remember about my past life *frowns rolls eyes* errrrr and it's nothing like that.And then some people just said I kick out from I, when I came out from my Monastery errr no no I mean when I came out from the 3 year retreat I mean. When I came out from 3 years retreat err and many people were making roomer's and saying that I kicked out my mother, my family errrr and you know, I kicked out my own teacher.Actually it's nothing ike that.My own Tutor, he tried to kill me, that's the truth and I was at that time I was really traditional.Very good traditional Buddhist practitioner.They tried to kill me because you know, I am not doing what they want me to do.You know it's * sighs* that time I was really really good you know.A traditional person you know and then he tried to kill me with the knife and everything and it was a shocking moment for me.And after that he left because when he realised about his own mistake how can he still live with me. So he left, I never kicked out anybody.I had a family misunderstanding for 2 years and a half, and recently like 6 months ago, I had a family reconnection and everything is good and after that errrrrm you know well when I was 18 I had all these big problems you know when one manager tried to kill me and everything ( mutters something not sure what ) It's all about money,power, controlling because if you can control the president, you can get what you want.That's the way it is and errrr you know and then I became a drug addict because of all this misunderstanding and you know I went crazy. I became an alcoholic, I became a drug addict. I did lots of crazy things but not the bad things and errrr then after that I asked my root Guru you know what is going on with my life I don't know because I see all these Buddhist people who are not Buddhist.They look like a Buddhist and they sound like a Buddhist and they act like a Buddhist and I am so confused.He said Rinpoche you have the capacity to change the structure in your own lineage in your Buddhist organisation.So that's why I'm trying to do, trying to build a school and to build my own structure for the poor people because for me the Buddhism and all this religious organisation, spiritual organisation it's all about how to protect the society, how to protect the environment, how to protect our self.How to be afar from the weakness,how to understand the tru meaning of point.And so you know errr....I will do whatever is best for society so that's why I plan to build a school and my life it's not easy.Theres lots of people who doesn't like me and theres lots of people who likes me.Weather you like it or not of who I am it doesn't change in the person who I am. So I will do everything I can I'm my responsibility's but the structure needs to be changed and the Buddhas teachings has to get involved in our personal life.It doesn't mean that you have to get away from your family.Stop thinking about sentient being if you can't help your own family.So first to be responsible is really important you know and errrr * big sigh* I don't want Buddhism to get involved in business politics no, I want Buddhism to bring a beautiful image to society and to understand society.That my point of view and wish me the best for my project, for my school which I can do the best for the society. And I'm just a normal human being even you live with me like 1,000 years I will still tell you, I'm just a human being. I always will be and no one is perfect ,everyone is perfect. Anyways all of you people take care and I'm happy with my life.I'm not going to change the way I am and errrrr *whispers* I'm not going to change who I am. I'm happy I am and at the end I can be myself now.So I wish for all of you, don't fall into confusion, don't fall into confusion about this O.K.If you want to be a Buddhist all you need is the one person who has a spiritual understanding life experience as I've told you many times. I'm so sorry for the cars running here there * points* because I'm outside.Take care, I love you very much and I'm happy don't worry'' * smiles and waves*

« Last Edit: November 28, 2011, 08:11:06 am by Mandarava »
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Re: Kalu Rinpoches talks about his life!!!
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 08:30:46 am »
After listening to Rinpoche talk about his life, I am shocked and saddened.It seems we can't trust anybody. Even some ( not all ) monks will take advantage of you.It's left me really questioning the Buddhist system and the way these ''organisations'' are run.Like Rinpoche said, Buddhism is being turned into a business, a way of controlling people. I don't like that.Buddhism shouldn't be about business and how much money one can make at it.It's about being a better,more responsable person.It's about putting others before yourself,taking care of your family and treating all living beings with respect like you would your very own mother becasue in a pst life they HAVE been your very own mother.If we are not seeing these changes take place through our practice and the teachings we receive, then we're not practising the Dharma at all we're just wasting our time.And we're certainly NOT Buddhist.Maybe we're seeing Buddhism as a ''hoby'' till the next mystical thing comes along and sweeps us away!!!!! :bigtears: :bigtears: :bigtears:

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Re: Kalu Rinpoches talks about his life!!!
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 03:44:31 pm »
Why should somebody (even a Saint) write such things? *smile* Revenge, showing people his live (what for - pride, seek for acceptance), make people suffer, split people, make you understand live, Samsara...

There is no Guru-ism without business. No need for it if things are freely given.

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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 08:49:56 pm »
Why should somebody (even a Saint) write such things? *smile*
The reason may be that same as that which that causes you to write your posts.

Revenge, showing people his live (what for - pride, seek for acceptance), make people suffer, split people, make you understand live, Samsara...
May be the same as that which causes you to write your posts.


There is no Guru-ism without business. No need for it if things are freely given.
There would be no need for you posting if you could freely give. Because you are not free you have to keep on writing.


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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 08:56:55 pm »
There is no Guru-ism without business. No need for it if things are freely given.
There would be no need for you posting if you could freely give. Because you are not free you have to keep on writing.

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Could be (I heard of Bodhisattvas believing in doing on) good observing! *smile* Things need their compensations if one is still not free from grasping. But could there be a situation where things are given freely, with no wish of any return? That's why I asked you (somewhere else), why a Buddha would do so and in which way. *smile*

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 09:03:29 pm »
But could there be a situation where things are given freely, with no wish of any return? That's why I asked you (somewhere else), why a Buddha would do so and in which way. *smile*
Speculations are bondage. :)

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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 04:03:30 pm »
He was a little less forthcoming when he was here in L.A. I wish I had known about the substance abuse issue. Having had one myself I would have liked to ask him about it. But the timeline doesn't seem to accommodate a period of real addiction. Maybe he experimented with a bunch and overdid it a little. Who knows?

I wish him well. Sounds like his predecessor had not completed all of his karmic purifications! Either that or his protectors are making sure he has some sort of first hand understanding of what suffering is all about...

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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2011, 07:37:08 pm »
I think it's important that someone from inside the system speak up like this.  In order to reform and improve the system, there needs to be transparency. He's doing the right thing by going public with this.  He's far from the only one to suffer this kind of abuse (the murder attempt is unusual, but not when you look at Tibetan history as a whole). By shining a light on this problem, hopefully over time other boys will be spared this suffering. The time is long overdue to remedy the problem.  Children should never be housed together with celibate adults. It's a recipe for disaster.

http://lamashree.org/dalailama_08_childabuse_tibetanbuddhistmonasteries.htm

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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2011, 08:41:56 pm »
It reads like a cry for help. 

As he says he is very confused, even naïve.  It’s pity he does not have a mentor, or someone who can teach him how to meditate. I sure a bit of insight (vipassana) would go a long way. 


with metta :)
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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2011, 11:00:18 pm »
Teach him how to meditate?  He was in retreat for over 3 years.  I can't help but wonder if that may have contributed to his substance abuse.  Meditation can bring up a flood of emotions.  It sounds like he had a hard time with it, saying no one cared how he was doing the whole time.

Sounds like he could use some trauma therapy.

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« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2011, 11:44:36 pm »
Teach him how to meditate?  He was in retreat for over 3 years.  I can't help but wonder if that may have contributed to his substance abuse.  Meditation can bring up a flood of emotions.  It sounds like he had a hard time with it, saying no one cared how he was doing the whole time.

Sounds like he could use some trauma therapy.


What can I say? He doesn’t seem to have learnt much from the 3 year retreat, tell him to ask for his money back? I think a little insight would go a long way. Lots of people have had  hard times, been abused, suffer from substance abuse.  It sounds like “poor me”, to me.
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2011, 12:00:00 am »
Lots of people have hard times, been abused, suffer from substance abuse.  It sounds like “poor me”, to me.
He is 21 years old and says publicly, "don't expect too much from me". So I take him at his word and don't expect more wisdom than a 21 year old is normally capable of. Hopefully in his maturity he will have learned enough about life and enough about Dharma practice that he can be a help to others. For now he seems focused on reforming the monastic and Dharma center situations, plus living his own life.

There will be no more teachers in the style of the last generation's Tibetan masters. Hopefully there will be people with the same level of realization, but their style is going to be different by necessity.

No guarantees on that. Time will tell. :twocents:
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2011, 12:23:09 am »
Lots of people have hard times, been abused, suffer from substance abuse.  It sounds like “poor me”, to me.
He is 21 years old and says publicly, "don't expect too much from me". So I take him at his word and don't expect more wisdom than a 21 year old is normally capable of. Hopefully in his maturity he will have learned enough about life and enough about Dharma practice that he can be a help to others. For now he seems focused on reforming the monastic and Dharma center situations, plus living his own life.

There will be no more teachers in the style of the last generation's Tibetan masters. Hopefully there will be people with the same level of realization, but their style is going to be different by necessity.

No guarantees on that. Time will tell. :twocents:

Good points santamonicacj,

Perhaps, it’s time to go back to the source, to the teachings of the man who was enlightened while meditating under the Bo-Tree.

I hope he finds his way.

Cheers :)



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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2011, 01:55:14 pm »
The tulku system may be changing.  In Gesar Mukpo's film, "Tulku", Dzongsar Khentse Rinpoche (Gesar's teacher) makes a cryptic statement that if Tibetans aren't careful, the tulku system will be the undoing of Buddhism (at least in their corner of the Buddhist world, I assume he meant).  Maybe this new informal style of KR's (he seems to prefer to lecture in street clothes) and openness and reform-mindedness are the first breezes of the winds of change.

I imagine he may need time to process and recover from what sounds like multiple traumas, and at 21, he may still have some courses of study to complete...?  The Dalai Lama's oldest brother (also a tulku) continued to study into his 20's. It's not unusual.

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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2011, 06:54:41 pm »
The tulku system may be changing.
I think it is safe to say that. How will it change? I have no idea.

I do think it should be known that simply being recognized as a 'tulku' does not guarantee any kind of Dharma realization or special qualities. They have to work at it just like everybody else. Gesar Mukpo's (Jomgon Kongtrul of Sechen in his last life) autobiographical "Tulku" documentary will convince anybody should they doubt this.

I believe that people with Dharma realization should be honored. People that do not should be treated like everybody else, regardless of who they were in their past life. (That's just my opinion at this time.)

In terms of this Kalu R., let's let him mature a bit and see where he's at in a few years. I certainly wouldn't want to be a young man and deal with all the insanely over-the-top expectations people have about him. He is showing at least some wisdom by defusing the situation with candor regarding his human frailties.   :twocents:
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