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Offline cosmic_dog_magic

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Klesha Practice and Why isn't this taught earlier?
« on: February 17, 2015, 05:03:35 am »
Hi there
I just have a couple questions regarding practice.
I've been studying mahamudra, through Reggie Ray's teaching set Mahamudra for a Modern World.
I haven't been practicing mahamudra very long, but I feel like I'm making progress everyday (at least in an emotionally healing way) just from getting involved with klesha's. 
I'm wondering why these instructions aren't taught earlier in studies, like at the hinayana level. 
Also it would have helped if in red letters on page one, that to really understand the Dharma, you have to understand the somatic sense of the words, such as "openness", "grasping" and "letting go". 
It seems so obvious to me now, but I'm wondering if it's only because of the steps I've taken to get here and the experiences I needed to have in life (loss and a sense of hopelessness) that made it possible for me to make this progress. 
Klesha practices seem to be introduced in yoga pretty early, so I'm wondering if it's just tied up in Tibetan tradition or some danger I've seemed to have missed. 
Or is it actually okay and beneficial to give klesha instructions to people in our lives that might need it, but don't wanna make the full journey due to whatever personal reasons.
Also this an interesting read on the scientific understanding of how klesha practices changes our neurobiology, which also sparked these questions.
http://lindagraham-mft.net/resources/published-articles/skillful-ways-to-deal-with-stress-and-trauma/
It seems she's been exploring guided meditation through klesha's inorder to help her patients.
Thank you for your responses.

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Re: Klesha Practice and Why isn't this taught earlier?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 08:56:29 am »
Hi Cosmic Dog and welcome to FreeSangha.

I'm wondering why these instructions aren't taught earlier in studies, like at the hinayana level.

Kleshas (Sanskrit, also kle┼Ťa; Pali: kilesa; Tibetan: nyon mongs), in Buddhism, are mental states that cloud the mind and manifest in unwholesome actions. Kleshas include states of mind such as anxiety, fear, anger, jealousy, desire, depression, etc. Contemporary translators use a variety of English words to translate the term kleshas, such as: afflictions, defilements, destructive emotions, disturbing emotions, negative emotions, mind poisons, etc.

In the contemporary Mahayana and Theravada Buddhist traditions, the three kleshas of ignorance, attachment, and aversion are identified as the root or source of all other kleshas. These are referred to as the three poisons in the Mahayana tradition, or as the three unwholesome roots in the Theravada tradition.

While the early Buddhist texts of the Pali canon do not specifically enumerate the three root kleshas, over time the three poisons (and the kleshas generally) came to be seen as the very roots of samsaric existence.

more here >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleshas_(Buddhism)


Klesha practices seem to be introduced in yoga pretty early, so I'm wondering if it's just tied up in Tibetan tradition or some danger I've seemed to have missed. 
Or is it actually okay and beneficial to give klesha instructions to people in our lives that might need it, but don't wanna make the full journey due to whatever personal reasons.

It would depend on where and from what text the instructions come from, whether there's some type of empowerment involved or stage of development required as a prerequisite before hand, ect. --- it would probably be best if you contacted an appropriately trained teacher from the tradition or sect related to the instructions and ask for their advise.

By the way, please note that the use of the word "Hinayana" is considered derogatory and defamatory in nature, where Buddhists and non-Buddhists alike are strongly advised to stop using it to describe any Buddhist school, whether existing or extinct.


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Re: Klesha Practice and Why isn't this taught earlier?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 09:42:21 am »
ooo the first time I heard that, sorry.
hopefully i'll meet someone in this tradition, who can give me more advice on this. 
thank you Dharmakara and for the welcome.

 


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