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Offline ananda

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Aryadeva's "400".
« on: February 15, 2011, 12:47:49 pm »
Hello,

I have just joined Free Sangha very pleased to be here.

I'm requesting assistence please, in establishing if there is an alternative translation available of 'Aryadeva's Four Hundred Stanzas on the Middle Way', translated by Ruth Sonam a Snow Lion Publ.

I am aware that a couple of decades back Karen Lang's translation, 'Aryadeva's Catuhsataka' was published but is no longer available, (can't find a copy anywhere?).

The Ruth Sonam/Geshe Sonam Rinchen translation is great, and for the most I'm able to follow the thread.
But I do run into trouble in some sections so I would dearly like to get another translation as a comparison.

Thank you in advance,

metta

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Re: Aryadeva's "400".
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2011, 01:12:01 pm »
I can give you King Leonidas's 300 ?   ;D
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A man sees the rope in the twilight he mistakenly apprehends a snake and develops fear. To remove this fear he must remove the mind apprehending a snake by realizing that there is no snake. Even then, if the rope is left in the same place there is a danger that the same mistake will be made in the future. The only way to remove this danger is to remove the rope. Similarly, sentient beings observing their aggregates in the darkness of their ignorance mistakenly apprehend an inherently existent I. This mind grasping at an inherently existent I is the root of samsara and the source of all fear. To remove the fears of samsara we must remove this mind by realizing that there is no inherently existent I.

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Re: Aryadeva's "400".
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2011, 01:21:44 pm »
Try this German site:

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B003VV7MF6/ref=nosim/addall

Or, if you are a member of a library, you can request it on interlibrary loan for a few weeks.
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Re: Aryadeva's "400".
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2011, 03:12:19 pm »
Thank You Both!
Let me look at that web site, and about the '300' how did it go! "Stranger passing through do honor unto these warriors, or something....................i think?"

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Re: Aryadeva's "400".
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2011, 12:41:06 am »
Quote from: ananda on February 15, 2011, 03:12:19 pm
Thank You Both!
Let me look at that web site, and about the '300' how did it go! "Stranger passing through do honor unto these warriors, or something....................i think?"

metta

ananda

Hehe  :blush:
Sorry I had a search over the Internet and wasnt able to find much related to Aryadeva's 400  :bigtears:
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A man sees the rope in the twilight he mistakenly apprehends a snake and develops fear. To remove this fear he must remove the mind apprehending a snake by realizing that there is no snake. Even then, if the rope is left in the same place there is a danger that the same mistake will be made in the future. The only way to remove this danger is to remove the rope. Similarly, sentient beings observing their aggregates in the darkness of their ignorance mistakenly apprehend an inherently existent I. This mind grasping at an inherently existent I is the root of samsara and the source of all fear. To remove the fears of samsara we must remove this mind by realizing that there is no inherently existent I.

Geshe-la.

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Re: Aryadeva's "400".
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2011, 12:31:44 pm »
Hi,

I love this text very much.  You can find an alternative translation on Alexander Berzin's site:

http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/x/nav/n.html_1949421541.html

There are also mp3 recordings of a short commentary to the main points.  Enjoy!
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