The Genesis of the Bodhisattva Ideal

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... Better to start a new pyramid. *smile*

... But to come there we need the right effort.

Fabricating, building up, gathering and collecting ... have you noticed that your ideas are of the same nature the ideas of Lama Tsongkhapa are (see "The six perfection" thread)?

Actually Lama Tsongkhapa taught a "Mahayana-Theravada" 


Kind regards

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It is contradictory to propound that you should not train in the scriptural collections of the Hinayana because you are a Mahayana practitioner.

Mahayana followers must practice all those things taught in the Hinayana scriptural collections, with only a few exceptions, such as diligently seeking blissful peace for oneself alone.

Lama Tsongkhapa (LRCM)

[Hanzze]

... Better to start a new pyramid. *smile*

... But to come there we need the right effort.

Fabricating, building up, gathering and collecting ... have you noticed that your ideas are of the same nature the ideas of Lama Tsongkhapa are (see "The six perfection" thread)?

Actually Lama Tsongkhapa taught a "Mahayana-Theravada" 

Kind regards

That's for telling me that. Your thoughtfulness keeps me always away from wrong judgments. *smile* Serious: Lama Tsongkhapa teaches with much responsibility. As you read maybe before, I am just curious why he not simply teaches the eightfold path. To much fear of being outlawed of its branch?

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Serious: Lama Tsongkhapa teaches with much responsibility. As you read maybe before, I am just curious why he not simply teaches the eightfold path. To much fear of being outlawed of its branch?

In Mahayana there is the belief that each individual has a proclivity for either the Mahayana or the Hinayana which is the result of karma accumulated in former lives (includes the meeting of teachers).
So it is also karma that leads to rebirth in an area where either Mahayana or Hinayana prevails.

Our karma in the west currently led to being reborn in a time and area where all the different traditions come together. That may be interpreted as "bad" karma causing doubt (who is right and who is wrong? what path shall I choose?) or as "good" karma (when there is a potential for wisdom). So it is again depending on the proclivity of the individual.


Kind regards

[Hanzze]

Thanks for explaining me that. As for "In Mahayana there is the belief" I need to say, yes there are many believes.

Can you explain my, why out of this case Mahayana is famous for advertising and missionary as well as conversion intention? So would a Mahayany try to make somebody to follow Mahayana if he actually could be just liberated on another Yana? *smile*

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Thanks for explaining me that. As for "In Mahayana there is the belief" I need to say, yes there are many believes.

Yes, in that context Mahayana and Theravada do not differ.

Can you explain my, why out of this case Mahayana is famous for advertising and missionary as well as conversion intention?

Again I experienced that there is no difference in Theravada. But it keeps striking me that this missionary tendency is mainly displaying among people of western origin. Seems to be the karma caused by christianity ...

So would a Mahayany try to make somebody to follow Mahayana if he actually could be just liberated on another Yana? *smile*

The rationale for this is the postulation that only buddhahood ensures the capacity to foster the welfare of others and that only buddhahood is "real" liberation not limited to oneself and endowed with higher wisdom. The whole Mahayana is based on this tenet and it would be flawed without this tenet.


Kind regards

[Hanzze]

Thanks for explaining me that. As for "In Mahayana there is the belief" I need to say, yes there are many believes.

Yes, in that context Mahayana and Theravada do not differ.

Yes. *smile*

Can you explain my, why out of this case Mahayana is famous for advertising and missionary as well as conversion intention?

Again I experienced that there is no difference in Theravada. But it keeps striking me that this missionary tendency is mainly displaying among people of western origin. Seems to be the karma caused by christianity ...

Yes as they use to missionary as well, today in the east the monks are more attached to Dana as somebody else. There is a lot of success pressure. *smile* Its not a west or east phenomena, its simply to much attachment to bear if the wisdom is weak.

So would a Mahayany try to make somebody to follow Mahayana if he actually could be just liberated on another Yana? *smile*

The rationale for this is the postulation that only buddhahood ensures the capacity to foster the welfare of others and that only buddhahood is "real" liberation not limited to oneself and endowed with higher wisdom. The whole Mahayana is based on this tenet and it would be flawed without this tenet.
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Well own effort is not every bodies hobby. Even our Buddha had to recollect the teachings he had received by the former Buddha. When its no more available one would need to walk this way. *smile*