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Can mental powers be blocked?
« on: July 27, 2013, 10:25:59 am »
I have a question about the mental powers that come from meditation; namely, how does one stop them?

I am not sure what I am doing but it sounds like tonglen.

I just did what came to me naturally; with my breath, I inhale negative energy from the world and exhale positive energy for the world. I was enjoying this meditation almost daily for close to 2 months, but I started getting clairvoyant visions that come true, as well as seeing the past, present, and future lives of people, (and even the ability to answer Jeopardy questions before the question is even asked).

Anyway, these are freaking me out as the content (not Jeopardy) is always of great suffering. I know that suffering is the nature of things in this realm, and maybe all realms, but I do not really want to see these things if I cannot help to stop them from happening.

I would rather not have them at all. It appears now that I cannot even do review meditations as these continue into my sleep and last all night, and then when I wake up, it is as if I never even slept at all but I do feel rested. These are okay, but do not seem to benefit others and therefore I do not really want to do them.

I have not meditated (tonglen style if that is what I am doing) since December of 2012, but really want to get back to it as I feel it is very beneficial to others. Any suggestions as to how I can block them, (preferred) or better deal with them (if I must) if they cannot be blocked?

Thank you all so much for your time and consideration in this matter.

Alaya Samatha Kusala-mula
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Re: Can mental powers be blocked?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 10:52:39 am »
I am not sure what I am doing but it sounds like tonglen.

If you're not sure what you are doing, it is best to stop and when I say "stop" I mean immediately for your own mental health --- consider guided meditation in a group setting instead.

On humorous note, when you're able to pick winning lottery numbers, please send me a PM and let me know.

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Re: Can mental powers be blocked?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 12:09:02 pm »
Thank you for the welcome and advice. That is great advice, and I have already stopped as it has caused much sadness when learning they have come true. I did subsequent research and the closest form of meditation I could find to what I was doing, is tonglen, though I do not visualize so much as they suggest, it is more like feeling the energy.

Even if guided, would they not come? I have read that they are automatic, but should not be developed or pursued as they cause distraction to the goal, but I cannot seem to find any advice on how to avoid them or block them from happening in the first place, without completely forgoing meditation. So I guess that is what I will do.

Lottery… that is funny. I may be able to do for you, but not for myself. I have given two answers to two unasked Jeopardy questions based on the topic ‘fictional characters’ but I determined to myself that I wanted to supply them, (the askers) the answer for their benefit. I am not looking for anything in return, and after these two worked, (I gave the right answers) I do not mess with that either. It just feels wrong to me.

Thank you again. If I change my mind on the lottery thing you will be the first to know.
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Re: Can mental powers be blocked?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2013, 01:21:12 pm »
Of course, with such claims it's usually best to err on the side of caution, as there are several possible causes, including coincidence --- the real risk is found in the possibility of it derailing your practice, so "caution" is the keyword.

There is also something else to take in account, namely the type of imagery within some forms of Tibetan meditation --- for example, this is one of the reasons that people who are bi-polar are discouraged from using such techniques.

That's not to say that imagery doesn't occur in other techniques as well --- a good example of this is found in the story of the Zen master who's student was distracted by images of the Buddha in all his glory --- the master's advice was "ignore him and he'll go away."

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Re: Can mental powers be blocked?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 01:24:44 pm »
yes what you are doing is Tonglen

as far as seeing clairviont visions.........take away the suffering give peace and happiness when ever you see things

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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2013, 04:20:34 pm »
I suppose that is true. It could be pure coincidence that they asked me to give answers to general topics and both turned out to be the right answers. 2 for 2. They would not be good odds of happening, but still possible I suppose.

Or, that on the night of July 21, 2011, I dreamed of a guy that split into 5 (maybe the five aggregates I’m not sure) though they were still the same person… 3 went right intending to set off a bomb, and 2 went left intending to dress as police officers and shoot people. Then, the next day after describing the whole thing to a friend, a newsbreak came on we learned that a man in Oslo set off a bomb, then, he dressed as a police officer and shot and killed 76 people. I suppose that could be pure coincidence as well.

In either case, coincidence or true, it is just not worth it if I cannot stop it from happening.

The visualizing is not important. Actually, it helps some. They say to visualize black smoke coming in and gold/yellow light going out but it does not change anything in the end as if compassion is involved, the visions still come. How can a compassion practice continue if I cannot avoid these things? My practice has already been derailed. I have no practice now.

I have heard that about bi-polar people and meditation before. Interesting, though not applicable, I will look into why that is.

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Re: Can mental powers be blocked?
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2013, 04:23:09 pm »
yes what you are doing is Tonglen

as far as seeing clairviont visions.........take away the suffering give peace and happiness when ever you see things
Thank you. I have thought of doing that, but I do not seem to have any volition during the visions. I am but a mere observer floating above. If I ever try again, I will try to do that. Thank you so much.
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Re: Can mental powers be blocked?
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2013, 04:31:29 pm »
I suppose that is true. It could be pure coincidence that they asked me to give answers to general topics and both turned out to be the right answers. 2 for 2. They would not be good odds of happening, but still possible I suppose.


I had a tendency to do similar things, spooking the hell out of my preceptor whenever I mentioned something he had been thinking about for a while, but never mentioned to anyone, where I not only brought up the subject, but also supplied the answer.

I have come to understand such occurance as the by-product of an analectical mind, one that doesn't rest, but constantly churns --- nothing special.

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Re: Can mental powers be blocked?
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2013, 12:10:57 am »
I used to have a lot of mental powers, till I talked to a psychaitrist and he put me on medication, I have no doubt that mental powers/telepathy etc exist; the problem is they put you so much closer to actual insanity that I wouldn't really want to encourage them.
to me, the signs of a successful practice are happiness and a cessation of suffering, buddhism often gives me this; not all the answers.

 


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