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Christian view on Meditation
« on: February 20, 2018, 02:06:14 pm »
I have talk to a couple of christians about meditation and they say by empty yourself you open yourself up to demons. When I mediate now I question if this is possible or if it is because this form of meditation is not christian so they are against it. It has helped me a lot meditating in my life. Any thoughts on this and how I could respond to christians about this?

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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2018, 03:54:32 pm »
While Christian meditation is meant to focus on the good works of God, I would ask them to point to scripture that specifically says meditating on "emptiness" will let demons in, because I don't believe there is any support for that in the Bible.

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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2018, 04:53:04 pm »
Some people have too many negative emotions, which meditation cannot cure. Therefore, for these types of people, meditation opens them up to the 'demons' within their minds; which is why meditation is not for everyone. Christianity is a good religion for these types of people; so they can support Israel in bombing the Middle East.

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Millions of Evangelical Christians Want to Start WWIII to Speed the “Second Coming” … and Atheist Neocons are Using Religion to Rile Them Up to Justify War Against Iran

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/02/evangelical-christians-want-to-start-wwiii-to-speed-the-second-coming-and-atheist-neocons-are-using-religion-to-rile-them-up-to-justify-war-against-iran.html


 
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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2018, 02:27:03 am »
I have talk to a couple of christians about meditation and they say by empty yourself you open yourself up to demons. When I mediate now I question if this is possible or if it is because this form of meditation is not christian so they are against it. It has helped me a lot meditating in my life. Any thoughts on this and how I could respond to christians about this?

Were they evangelical Christians?   :wink1:

Actually some Christians meditate too.  For example I used to do "silent worship" with the Quakers, which is a sort of meditation.  Their idea was to experience the presence of God within the stillness, or something like that.   
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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2018, 03:17:16 am »
I have talk to a couple of christians about meditation and they say by empty yourself you open yourself up to demons. When I mediate now I question if this is possible or if it is because this form of meditation is not christian so they are against it. It has helped me a lot meditating in my life. Any thoughts on this and how I could respond to christians about this?
The thing about meditation is that it actually causes changes to the brain. While ultimately beneficial, it can throw up some strange stuff while this change is happening. I remember one 'vision' of a creature when meditating in the shrine room some years ago. It didn't bother me in the least since I knew that such stuff can happen, but I can see how such an idea could arise.
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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2018, 12:22:04 pm »
Yes Dairy Lama they are evangelical christians.

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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2018, 01:55:12 pm »
Yes Dairy Lama they are evangelical christians.

that's all i wanted to do.  log in and quote someone.

but i'm a basket case.  i see a blank spot and i want to write in it.  i need to write and communicate, and breed my essence with the void.  is this even a Thing?
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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2018, 04:12:36 pm »
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  meez:  "...I don't believe there is any support for that in the Bible."

What makes you think that most Christians have ever read The Bible?
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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2018, 06:19:22 pm »
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Philippians 2:7

Instead he emptied himself by assuming the form of a servant, taking on the likeness of humanity.


http://biblehub.com/philippians/2-7.htm

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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2018, 02:29:44 am »
i see a blank spot and i want to write in it.  i need to write and communicate, and breed my essence with the void.  is this even a Thing?

It's the internet.  :wink1:
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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2018, 02:31:22 am »
Yes Dairy Lama they are evangelical christians.

I wonder if they have ever tried meditation - you could ask them, I suppose.
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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2018, 04:20:35 pm »
tell them to read "The Lost Years of Jesus" by Elizabeth Clare Prophet  ;D


according to Tibetan archives, there was a certain Buddha Issa (the eastern name for Jesus) who received teachings in Varanasi, from both buddhist and Vedic gurus, and he apparently came from the Middle East with a merchant caravan, at a young age and ventured back home later....

should spark som fine old controversy.  :teehee:

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Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2018, 03:43:11 am »
I have talk to a couple of christians about meditation and they say by empty yourself you open yourself up to demons. When I mediate now I question if this is possible or if it is because this form of meditation is not christian so they are against it. It has helped me a lot meditating in my life. Any thoughts on this and how I could respond to christians about this?
Not all christians are true christians and likewise to not all buddhists are true buddhists.

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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2018, 01:59:55 am »
I would challenge most Christians that prayer is a form of meditation.  Id also tell them that when people say that meditation opens them to their demons, its more a figurative demon than it is a literal one.

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Re: Christian view on Meditation
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2018, 02:23:44 am »
I'd also tell them that when people say that meditation opens them to their demons, its more a figurative demon than it is a literal one.

Good point.  As they say, ignorance is bliss. 
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