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Dream Practice
« on: January 16, 2019, 12:47:21 pm »
Hello,

I've been meaning to pick up a book or two and do Namkhai Norbu's Dream practice
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Re: Dream Practice
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2019, 03:20:05 pm »
Hello,

I've been meaning to pick up a book or two and do Namkhai Norbu's Dream practice

Is that Lucid Dreaming?

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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2019, 03:31:41 pm »
Hello,

I've been meaning to pick up a book or two and do Namkhai Norbu's Dream practice

Is that Lucid Dreaming?

Sometimes.

Sometimes Psychology and waking up from dreams.
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Re: Dream Practice
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2019, 04:37:52 pm »
Hello,

I've been meaning to pick up a book or two and do Namkhai Norbu's Dream practice

Is that Lucid Dreaming?

Sometimes.

Sometimes Psychology and waking up from dreams.

So it's lucid dreaming, psychology or waking up from dreams?

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Re: Dream Practice
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2019, 05:50:45 pm »
Hello,

I've been meaning to pick up a book or two and do Namkhai Norbu's Dream practice

Is that Lucid Dreaming?

Sometimes.

Sometimes Psychology and waking up from dreams.

So it's lucid dreaming, psychology or waking up from dreams?

I need to do a bit of reading 1st on the 20th century Psychologist and pratice for a couple of years.

Waking Consciousness,Lucidity of dreams leads to study of Psychology
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Re: Dream Practice
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2019, 06:17:43 pm »
I'm curious know more about Dream Practice and if you know anything about it.
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Re: Dream Practice
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2019, 07:12:06 pm »
I'm curious know more about Dream Practice and if you know anything about it.

Dream practice, or Dream Yoga as it's also known is a family of practices set forth by Naropa and from him passed down though the Kagyu lineage (perhaps otehr?).

These are tantric practice, intended to train the practioner in preparation for bardos following physical death.

As tantric practice theye are recommended guided by the Guru.  To really learn Dream Yoga, the Guru is indispensible.  It takes years of practice including Ngondro, Deity Yoga and so on as the Guru directs.

One does not simply pick up and read a book and start doing Dream Yoga.  It doesn't woirk that way.

It has nothing to do with psychology.  Nothing.

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Re: Dream Practice
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2019, 08:29:17 pm »
I'm curious know more about Dream Practice and if you know anything about it.

Dream practice, or Dream Yoga as it's also known is a family of practices set forth by Naropa and from him passed down though the Kagyu lineage (perhaps otehr?).

These are tantric practice, intended to train the practioner in preparation for bardos following physical death.

As tantric practice theye are recommended guided by the Guru.  To really learn Dream Yoga, the Guru is indispensible.  It takes years of practice including Ngondro, Deity Yoga and so on as the Guru directs.

One does not simply pick up and read a book and start doing Dream Yoga.  It doesn't woirk that way.

It has nothing to do with psychology.  Nothing.


I have two books on the subject, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu's  "Dream Yoga" (Snow Lion publications) andTenzin Wangyal Rinpoche's "The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep" (Snow Lion).

After a superficial look at both I realised that they would take far more effort and guidance than I could manage to put together and for a purpose I wasn't convinced I understood, although I am loosely familiar with the Bardo teachings.

It also seemed a long way from the supremely simple and direct practices of the basic Buddhist path as described in either the Pali Suttas or the Zen instructions. These practices could bring liberation in this lifetime and therefore negate the need to develop any of the more complex practices. (If practiced with diligence)

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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2019, 08:57:07 am »
I'm curious know more about Dream Practice and if you know anything about it.

Dream practice, or Dream Yoga as it's also known is a family of practices set forth by Naropa and from him passed down though the Kagyu lineage (perhaps otehr?).

These are tantric practice, intended to train the practioner in preparation for bardos following physical death.

As tantric practice theye are recommended guided by the Guru.  To really learn Dream Yoga, the Guru is indispensible.  It takes years of practice including Ngondro, Deity Yoga and so on as the Guru directs.

One does not simply pick up and read a book and start doing Dream Yoga.  It doesn't woirk that way.

It has nothing to do with psychology.  Nothing.

Does it say "I passed the dream of Night to enter the Day?"
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Re: Dream Practice
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2019, 09:10:55 am »
I'm curious know more about Dream Practice and if you know anything about it.

Dream practice, or Dream Yoga as it's also known is a family of practices set forth by Naropa and from him passed down though the Kagyu lineage (perhaps otehr?).

These are tantric practice, intended to train the practioner in preparation for bardos following physical death.

As tantric practice theye are recommended guided by the Guru.  To really learn Dream Yoga, the Guru is indispensible.  It takes years of practice including Ngondro, Deity Yoga and so on as the Guru directs.

One does not simply pick up and read a book and start doing Dream Yoga.  It doesn't woirk that way.

It has nothing to do with psychology.  Nothing.


I have two books on the subject, Chogyal Namkhai Norbu's  "Dream Yoga" (Snow Lion publications) andTenzin Wangyal Rinpoche's "The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep" (Snow Lion).

After a superficial look at both I realised that they would take far more effort and guidance than I could manage to put together and for a purpose I wasn't convinced I understood, although I am loosely familiar with the Bardo teachings.

It also seemed a long way from the supremely simple and direct practices of the basic Buddhist path as described in either the Pali Suttas or the Zen instructions. These practices could bring liberation in this lifetime and therefore negate the need to develop any of the more complex practices. (If practiced with diligence)

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If you have the luxury of devoting your time to the teachings and the general practices.
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Re: Dream Practice
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2019, 03:11:14 pm »

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If you have the luxury of devoting your time to the teachings and the general practices.
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I'm not sure what stage or level your practice is at, but I suspect that accomplishing dream yoga would require a lot of preparatory work, much of which would be the need to have mastered many of the basic practices. I don't think one can successfully skip the basics and just do the bardo stuff at the end.

I don't have access to any personal guidance on the practices and I thought the books were not sufficient support for me to go it alone.

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Re: Dream Practice
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2019, 07:58:45 am »

 

I don't have access to any personal guidance on the practices and I thought the books were not sufficient support for me to go it alone.

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I access to lineage teachers isn't always necessary.  Simple meditation practices can be self-taught.  Kriya Yoga practices such as Tara or Chenrezigacn be as simple as reciting the liturgy and following the directions that accompany it.  However, blessings/merit are said to be to be multiplied with a reading transmission (or lung).  This must be done by and in the presence a teacher.  More advanced practices require guidence, prelimiary practice and transmission.  Again, you can't do this alone.

In the case of Dream Yoga it must be taught.  Reading a book is insufficient.

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2019, 05:10:55 am »
Right, .. If you're serious about dreaming or Dream Practice it becomes a type of World Transitory Awareness which is like Dzogchen Evolution ATI
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2019, 07:45:45 pm »

 

I don't have access to any personal guidance on the practices and I thought the books were not sufficient support for me to go it alone.

 :dharma: :om:

I access to lineage teachers isn't always necessary.  Simple meditation practices can be self-taught.  Kriya Yoga practices such as Tara or Chenrezigacn be as simple as reciting the liturgy and following the directions that accompany it.  However, blessings/merit are said to be to be multiplied with a reading transmission (or lung).  This must be done by and in the presence a teacher.  More advanced practices require guidence, prelimiary practice and transmission.  Again, you can't do this alone.

In the case of Dream Yoga it must be taught.  Reading a book is insufficient.

I do mine by looking at Namkhai Norbu's picture and pictures of Buddhism.
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2019, 07:48:39 pm »

 

I don't have access to any personal guidance on the practices and I thought the books were not sufficient support for me to go it alone.

 :dharma: :om:

I access to lineage teachers isn't always necessary.  Simple meditation practices can be self-taught.  Kriya Yoga practices such as Tara or Chenrezigacn be as simple as reciting the liturgy and following the directions that accompany it.  However, blessings/merit are said to be to be multiplied with a reading transmission (or lung).  This must be done by and in the presence a teacher.  More advanced practices require guidence, prelimiary practice and transmission.  Again, you can't do this alone.

In the case of Dream Yoga it must be taught.  Reading a book is insufficient.

So? . . .
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