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Offline Arkena

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Insight/vision related to meditation
« on: September 28, 2018, 02:22:22 pm »
Hi this seemed like the appropriate subforum to post this in.

Im starting an online 10 week vipassana meditation course tomorrow...i was reading the introduction and the theory about the jhanas and gaining insight into impermence, unsatisfactoriness and non self of the world.

Then i had this like vision play in my head where i looked at my body and i saw it as just hundreds of atoms swirling about in a cloud and no body where my body was, then i looked around (put my attention on things and saw these images in my head) saw everything near me just be clouds of atoms, the same with my cat.

Then thought on unsatisfactoriness and saw that the happiest states of joy and bliss come from within and not from the world about us.

I dont know if i should share what i saw regarding non self as dont want to upset people who believe otherwise. I saw my body as just atoms swirling about in a cloud and a pearl of light/energy that was me, saw the same for my cat.

I dont want to go into detail but from what ive seen of my previous life it was quite an auspicious one. In this life i am full of defillements and looking back at my life ...a fool lol.Im just wondering why im getting visions? Is this "normal"? Why is it happening to me? Is it because i had a good past life and am reaping the good karma of that past life?

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Re: Insight/vision related to meditation
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2018, 10:50:40 pm »
Visions can be real or can be fabrications (similar to dreams at night). The mind has both capacities, namely, to see real events or to fabricate mere pictures. Regardless, in the Pali suttas, both are responded to in the same way, namely, with equanimity.

During the meditation course, you should follow the instructions about how to view experiences with equanimity.

A ten-week course. Sounds good.  Best wishes. :namaste:

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Re: Insight/vision related to meditation
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2018, 12:28:53 am »
Ty, i appreciate your answer.

I did work myself up over this, really more than was needed.

Would you be able to link an appropriate sutta?

Ty again  ;D

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Re: Insight/vision related to meditation
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2018, 11:10:03 am »
I have to agree with VR here. Equanimity means to see everything as equal, without likes or dislikes. In this case it's all equally phenomena but we think such visions are special because they are different from the common phenomena we experience with every moment -- which are actually even more amazing since they are not quite so nebulous and transitory. But because we’ve become habituated we take everyday phenomena for granted.

In zen visions are called “makyo” and are nothing special.

My first formal meditation training was with Shunryu Suzuki in the 60's and later with Kobun, Robert Aitken and many other teachers (mainly zen). However, I've spent the most time practicing on my own, which is all I do now. I'm living in a rather isolated area so I miss connecting with other practitioners. Despite my interest in zen I've made an effort to remain secular. You can visit my website at http://www.frogzen.com

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Re: Insight/vision related to meditation
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2018, 02:33:51 am »
Ty zafrogzen, i needed to hear that...id gotten myself in a state over why it was happening etc

I shall treat them as "nothing special" and not make them into a big deal.

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