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Offline Ben Yuan

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Meditations to Reduce Lust
« on: March 10, 2010, 05:22:20 am »
Dear All,

I have found that one of the best meditations for reducing lust is death meditation, which goes through the processes of dying, and lays bare the disgusting nature of the body. I am not sure if the disgusting nature of the body meditation is supposed to be separate but both seem to work fine for me. On E-Sangha there were a few links to some websites with pictures that help with this meditation, and some videos which will help with the meditation as well, if anyone could suggest websites or the like which could help with this I would appreciate it, as my imagination regarding the splaying open of the body is rather limited.

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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 07:03:17 am »
Dear All,

I have found that one of the best meditations for reducing lust is death meditation, which goes through the processes of dying, and lays bare the disgusting nature of the body. I am not sure if the disgusting nature of the body meditation is supposed to be separate but both seem to work fine for me. On E-Sangha there were a few links to some websites with pictures that help with this meditation, and some videos which will help with the meditation as well, if anyone could suggest websites or the like which could help with this I would appreciate it, as my imagination regarding the splaying open of the body is rather limited.

Thanks  :pray:

You will find some with a Google search on decaying rotting corpses etc.

One meditation is simply to regard the body as a sack full of blood, piss, shit and pus.  Strip away the layers as a visualisation and you find that indeed beauty is skin deep.

I worked in a hospital for a time and you are left with no romantic notions about the process of bodily decay.

I have also seen bodies in hot climates decaying at the roadside.

Some mortuary or slaughterhouse pics may be useful if your imagination proves insufficient. ;)

Surely the objective is not to eradicate lust per se, but inappropriate lust and sexual activity.  Depending on your dictionary, lust may mean inappropriate or excessive sexual desire, or simply sexual desire itself.

If all lust is eradicated, no humans will be born, surely.  Some 'breeders' will be necessary as long as there is a human realm.
To put matters delicately, whilst a woman can become pregnant without the involvement of any lust on her part, I'm not quite sure how a man would manage his part without some form of 'uplifting' experience.

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Re: Meditations to Reduce Lust
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 07:31:48 am »
Keep in mind that death focus meditation doesn't work for necrophiliacs.   :eek:
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Re: Meditations to Reduce Lust
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 08:56:34 am »
Best meditation for lust:

sit cross legged, or in lotus position.

think of anything

Get someone to pour a bucket of cold water over you.

works everytime !    ;D

with Metta   :anjali:

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Re: Meditations to Reduce Lust
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 09:09:03 am »
There's always self flagellation... :cheesy:


Proceed with care: http://silentmindopenheart.org/docs/cemetery/Death.html

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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 09:23:53 am »

It certainly works for me!   :lmfao:

Best meditation for lust:

sit cross legged, or in lotus position.

think of anything

Get someone to pour a bucket of cold water over you.

works everytime !    ;D

with Metta   :anjali:
What Makes an Elder? :
A head of gray hairs doesn't mean one's an elder. Advanced in years, one's called an old fool.
But one in whom there is truth, restraint, rectitude, gentleness,self-control, he's called an elder, his impurities disgorged, enlightened.
-Dhammpada, 19, translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu.

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Re: Meditations to Reduce Lust
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 11:09:00 am »
Many like to use aversion to combat desire.  I prefer a different approach.  When I am trying to combat lust, I enter mindfulness of the arising masculinity and femininity of objects.  I see that without the conceptual labels of masculine and feminine, no lust manifests.  Keeping mindfulness solidly on the object, not letting it move into masculinity or femininity, my lust is overcome.

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Re: Meditations to Reduce Lust
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 11:32:50 am »
Thinking of the object of your lust without any skin also helps!  :eek:

Lust is only skin deep !

Metta  :anjali:

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Re: Meditations to Reduce Lust
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 11:42:02 am »
I have an excessive and inappropriate attachment to meditation.

Should I use lust to break this bad habit? 

Does anyone have any images which could help me, please?


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Re: Meditations to Reduce Lust
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 12:37:27 pm »
At one point Bhikku Samahita had corpse pictures on his website. Go his daily update thread here at FS, and find a link to his website there.

Warning: as I recall, during Buddha's time some monks committed suicide after spending too much time with this meditation. Only do this practice with a trained teacher.

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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 01:12:39 pm »
At one point Bhikku Samahita had corpse pictures on his website. Go his daily update thread here at FS, and find a link to his website there.

Warning: as I recall, during Buddha's time some monks committed suicide after spending too much time with this meditation. Only do this practice with a trained teacher.

Yes, renunciation is intended to motivate us to abandon suffering, and act on it, not become depressed at our miserable state.

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Re: Meditations to Reduce Lust
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 02:45:34 pm »
Indeed Anusaya, I have heard of one Western monk who would meditate in this manner. He lived in Sri lanka and meditated on the corpse and the states of decomposition and the local villagers would bring him corpses for his meditation. He ended up losing his mind as a result of this practice.                                               :namaste: Look into lust and see it's empty nature, it has no location, no color, no size, no shape.

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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 03:13:48 pm »
Indeed Anusaya, I have heard of one Western monk who would meditate in this manner. He lived in Sri lanka and meditated on the corpse and the states of decomposition and the local villagers would bring him corpses for his meditation. He ended up losing his mind as a result of this practice.                                               :namaste: Look into lust and see it's empty nature, it has no location, no color, no size, no shape.

Those who spend time in the charnel grounds need to be very well prepared, of course.

Westerners have often only a sanitised experience of death.

In ancient (and even modern) India, such meditations would not be as potentially harmful.

If a western monk lost his mind over such meditations, IMHO it says more about his mental condition than about the practice. Was there no supervision?

I would recommend any Buddhist to actively seek out experience of death and with corpses. It should be as integral to each of our lives as experiences of birth.

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Re: Meditations to Reduce Lust
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2010, 03:25:11 pm »
Lust depends upon the notion that the body is desirable, so if you attack that notion, lust cannot arise.  Shantideva's Guide Chapter 8 is very good for this.  For example, he says that the pleasant smell of the body is due to having washed and applying perfume and other artificial substances.  He says that the body in its natural state is smells of dirt, with yellowing teeth, foul breath and so forth.  His conclusion, which always makes me laugh is, "why be attracted to one thing by the smell of another?"

(so true!)

Then there's dealing with the desire to experience sexual bliss.  To deal with this, you need to have a very good understanding of the nature of contaminated feelings.  Buddha said that contaminated feelings are the nature of suffering.

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Re: Meditations to Reduce Lust
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2010, 03:56:31 pm »
Thank you all for your wonderful responses.

I don't think I have time to reply to each one but it seems like every response given will be very helpful.

Thank you,
Ben Yuan

 


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