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Re: Sudden Realisations/Epiphanies while Meditating
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2017, 01:09:24 pm »
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We have the term 'bliss bunnies' for those meditators who just want to bliss out whenever they meditate.


Really? I've never heard that expression used at any of the Buddhist meditation classes I've been to myself.

Ajahn Brahm talks about bliss in his meditation handbook "Mindfulness, Bliss, and Beyond."

The first 4 chapters can be found here:

https://www.dhammaloka.org.au/files/pdf/Ajahn_Brahm-Mindfulness_Bliss_and_Beyond-Chapters1-4.pdf



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Re: Sudden Realisations/Epiphanies while Meditating
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2017, 01:37:00 am »
Hi Pixie. I think 'bliss bunnies' is a UK thing, or at least with the Triratna group I was with. I meant that attachment to bliss can hold you back too.
“You do not need to leave your room. Remain sitting at your table and listen. Do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still and solitary. The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstasy at your feet.” Franz Kafka

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Re: Sudden Realisations/Epiphanies while Meditating
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2017, 03:07:24 am »
Hi Pixie. I think 'bliss bunnies' is a UK thing, or at least with the Triratna group I was with. I meant that attachment to bliss can hold you back too.


Hi spd,

Yes I knew what you meant, just hadn't heard that expression before!

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Re: Sudden Realisations/Epiphanies while Meditating
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2017, 09:07:39 am »
Every thought enamates from a feeling, ...

I'd say first there is a subtle thought which one may also call 'intuiton' and from that feeling arises.
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From fabrications as a requisite condition comes consciousness. From consciousness as a requisite condition comes name-&-form. From name-&-form as a requisite condition come the six sense media. From the six sense media as a requisite condition comes contact. From contact as a requisite condition comes feeling. From feeling as a requisite condition comes craving.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn12/sn12.002.than.html


That however does not contradict that feeling may also arise from full-fledged conceptual thinking. And that feeling then may stir further thoughts.

the desire to complete the thought is but the construct of language.

if we take 'construct of language' as habituation through applying language, yes. But more important is that thinking consciousness takes its thought objects as true objects as if those would exist independent of itself, the consciousness.

When we let go of the desire to complete the thought, we can examine what feeling gave rise to the thought.

If the perceptible is recognized to be empty of true existence it does neither stir thought nor feeling.

 


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