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The Bodhisattva Ideal
« on: June 01, 2017, 11:52:37 am »
When we assert that for example smoking as a major ground for suffering, we must treat it as though it would be a product of an impure mind. Understanding that purity has nothing to do with fanaticism, the continuous need for a smoking break is the personality trait of the addictive nature. Transcending addiction is then understood as a balance and unification of all the needs of the human nature. The examples of social needs, psychological needs, the need for physical health are all one of the balanced mind. The conclusion of this is based upon that a transiency to addictive behaviors is more pleasurable than pursuing simply one behavior of addiction. This is how suffering is born. We need to understand that this is transcending even the identity factor of our human nature, like the need for gender bias, another addictive behavior prone to suffering.

There is an evolutionary instinct for survival that is also concurrent to suffering, transcending the need to dominate, hunt or eating animals. Letting them evolve until they transcend their need for animal instincts too, is the ground for eternal prosperity into peace. If the big cats and the antelopes of Africa, in evolution were allowed to transcend their intellect for animal instinct too, this is an example of harmony between species.

We need to understand this goal as inter-dependent species and accept our mission as the bodhisattva ideal, or The Great Guardian spirit. The gratification then would come to us every time a species evolves into understanding our position on this planet.

Every rebirth of an animal species in the animal kingdom is a forgotten memory and the reincarnation of their descendant transcendent intellect will be their Avatar next to our celestial home of Shambala. There is no greater compassion than this allowance. This of course promotes Veganism to its utmost ideal. Or our position as guardian would be lost and we would fall back into animalistic behaviors that will result in eternal recurrence of planetary karmic suffering.

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Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2017, 08:29:40 am »
My scant understanding of "The Bodhisattva Ideal" is that of a Mahayana belief that as one, who has attained enlightenment, and at the same time, perhaps as a result of the process of enlightenment, realised a great compassion for all those, who have not, and who continue to suffer due to their ignorance of the causes and countermeasures abating suffering.  Like Christianity, it seems to be a belief that all suffering sentient life needs, or at least would benefit from a savior. This one holds a belief that those, who has attained enlightenment are equipped to act in behalf of all suffering sentient life-forms.

Otherwise, you have not mentioned any of this, and most of what you have written sounds muddled, confused, and what I have heard  referred to as "hairy-fairy", or "New Age" thinking.  It seems in no way related to the idea of The Bodhisattva Ideal......, but what do I know? 

Since I am not a Mahayana Practitioner, perhaps some of the Mahayana folks can make some sense of what you have written.  I am sorry.  I cannot.

In any event, I hope whatever you are doing works out for your benefit and for the benefit of those around you.   :hug:

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Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2017, 09:41:20 am »
....most of what you have written sounds muddled, confused, and what I have heard  referred to as "hairy-fairy", or "New Age" thinking.  It seems in no way related to the idea of The Bodhisattva Ideal......, but what do I know? 

  I don't understand why its in the "New Age and Theosophy" section either.

Perhaps this article by Ajahn Amaro might be helpful in general:

"Between Arhat and Bodhisattva

Ajahn Amaro examines the arguments for and against the arhat and bodhisattva ideals that define and too often divide the Buddhist traditions. He suggests a way out of the polarizing debate."


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Re: The Bodhisattva Ideal
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2017, 01:51:37 pm »
It's all interesting stuff. I like the idea, as in the article, that we aim at getting enlightened first, and then we can sort out afterwards what we want to do with it. It will then become clear what the differences are between being an Arhat and a Bodhisattva, and whether it matters.
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