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A prophecy for Shar Gaden from Duldzin.
« on: September 13, 2011, 10:47:43 am »
The Oracle taking trance of KING DULDZIN at the Official Opening of Shar Gaden Monastery in Oct 2009


Hri!
With karmas sowed and prayers made time and again;
kind masters and their scions rarer than the rarest;
This essence of the Dharma, the most profound of the profound;
Remember it's hard to meet these again and again as now,
That part of the Joyful Monastery of the eight joys,
Split of it into an east and a west;
If this separation has been motivated by the will
to accomplish that ultimate goal of the sacred Dharma – Towards that aim of the vast Sangha assembly,
As divinities of a Mandala, or milk and water blending as one;
Accomplish this, and focus on hearing and contemplation.
To Strive towards this, in matters spiritual and temporal Seniors should guide, junior should comply,
as in the precepts;
of seniority among ranks in the administration,
Look at the layer, of feathers, on a bird – If these are done, this and the future will be meaningful;
The required resources will increase as the summer sea;
Despair I have none in this,
If religion is on the lips, and politics in the heart, How can happiness both here and the future be possible?
That which is known as the 'Teaching' is the doorway To the ultimate objective, and towards benefit and joy of migratory sentient beings.
Not knowing this, not reflecting in this manner, with selfish aims
If the Dharma and the Sangha are impaired, I have no hesitation to command my hosts and Protectors of the Dharma to act
Contemplate this.

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Re: A prophecy for Shar Gaden from Duldzin.
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2011, 10:49:10 am »
Now that's a powerful boost!

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Re: A prophecy for Shar Gaden from Duldzin.
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2011, 05:54:05 pm »
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If religion is on the lips, and politics in the heart, How can happiness both here and the future be possible?


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Re: A prophecy for Shar Gaden from Duldzin.
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2011, 07:28:30 pm »
Now that's a powerful boost!

sounds pretty ambiguous to me.
Sergeant Schultz was onto something.

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Re: A prophecy for Shar Gaden from Duldzin.
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 02:36:00 am »
Now that's a powerful boost!

sounds pretty ambiguous to me.

He's been the most reliable of all the oracles, partly due to his clarity - after all it was on this oracle's advice that HHDL escaped Tibet (predictably Nechung claimed the opposite in spite of many witnesses to show that Nechung's advice would have left HHDL in TIbet and probably dead or imprisoned.)  So this oracle is greatly respected.

The words are celebratory, that great joy is resulting from the good karma of Shugden practitioners, with great promise for the future of the Dharma in the monastery which will be assured by Dorje Shudgen's actions as a Dharmapala.  That's a very powerful promise to my mind.

Conversely, the question (rhetorical) is posed how those who have religion on the lips and politics in the heart will have a happiness.  It's not at all ambiguous to his audience as it refers to those who persecuted the very monks he is addressing. The context is clear, as is his promise to protect the Dharma from those whose failure to destroy it is being celebrated. Em Ah Ho! :)

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Re: A prophecy for Shar Gaden from Duldzin.
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 06:13:33 am »
Well, maybe. But the part about juniors obeying the administration could well mean that the path out of this mess is for everyone to comply with the Dalai lama's wishes. Further, the part about religion and politics bodes well for the Dalai Lama, who has stepped out of the political arena.

That's why I think it's ambiguous .
Sergeant Schultz was onto something.

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Re: A prophecy for Shar Gaden from Duldzin.
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 08:41:35 am »
The Oracle taking trance of Dorje Shugden - Part 2


Here's another video from late October 2009 of Wrathful Duldzin taking trance to give advice.

Hri!

The Iksvaku, Saviours Nagarjuna and Asanga, Dvipamkara- Losang Dragpa, their emanations: To rekindle the essence of his teachings from the base, there is now “Gaden of Shar”, If this is proper and purposeful from the Vinayadhara to the new ones, The seniors guidance and the Juniors compliance of praktimoksha precepts the basis for training: This foundation must be there. The five great systems, The two stages of Generation and completion-salient instruction in these domains is like a lamp flickering in the wind, Listen contemplate and practice in these domains with steadfastness, fully without delaying. If that happens I shall be pleased to extend help as vowed to Manjunath and in accordance with it.

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Re: A prophecy for Shar Gaden from Duldzin.
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2011, 10:28:03 am »
Well, maybe. But the part about juniors obeying the administration could well mean that the path out of this mess is for everyone to comply with the Dalai lama's wishes. Further, the part about religion and politics bodes well for the Dalai Lama, who has stepped out of the political arena.

That's why I think it's ambiguous .

Yes, I see what you mean, but ...............   ;)

Duldzin is Dorje Shugden, so Shugden would not support the ban of himself.

In the context, with the audience he had, your interpretation would be extremely unlikely, however, since he was personally the focus of the ban and was speaking to monks who he has supported totally in continuing with Shugden practice.

Shar Gaden is a wonderful shining example of how karma has ripened for the persecuted monks and, far from destroying their practice through expulsions and beatings, HHDL has actually made it grow rapidly in both India and Tibet.  One website, dorjeshugden.com, often argues that HHDL had this as his grand plan all along - to create a huge growth in Shugden practice. 

HHDL has not stepped out of the political arena as long as the TGIE admits that it would never make a decision in contradiction of HHDL - what he says goes.  He has also stepped into the religious arena over the head of the Ganden Tripa, head of all Gelugpa, and caused a painful schism, including the retiring Ganden Tripa himself heading straight for the Shar Gaden monastery to continue Shugden practice.

I'm not revisiting the old arguments except to point out that in the above context I think the oracle is clear.  In the past, he was also clear and probably saved HHDL's life, and so is in a large degree responsible for HHDL's high profile in the West.  He certainly got little thanks for it after Nechung started to poison HHDL's mind.

What a mess.  But how glorious that Dorje Shugden has offered to use all his powers to protect the pure Shar Gaden monastery's Dharma work.

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Re: A prophecy for Shar Gaden from Duldzin.
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2013, 05:45:12 am »
wow! this is incredible. I am amazed that you guys got this video and translation!

I think what is amazing is how compassionate the protector is. He talks only Dharma! And no politics. Despite all the negative things said against him, the protector does not issue a single word against the people who are against him or the Dalai Lama. This is incredible. The mind of a real enlightened being.

Thank you for sharing this! It is so uplifting to read!


 


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