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Title: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Wonky Badger on October 11, 2011, 08:59:41 pm
I have no idea if this is a good idea, but I've installed a modification that adds a small "Ignore" link next to "Report to moderator" in posts. If you choose to ignore a member, their posts will say "You are ignoring this user. Show me the post.", so you can still easily read individual posts from ignored users if you feel like it by clicking the "Show" link. The "Ignore" link changes to "Unignore" so ignoring can easily be undone.
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 11, 2011, 09:29:37 pm
From the view of practicing your doubt it very legitimate and has its reason. Practicing is all about cessation of ignorance which can be attain by ignoring but by the opposite.

There is a saying: "More worse as ignorance is the ignoring of ignorance."

So all such kinds of giving ways to ignore are ways to keep people one self and others in the circle of birth and death. *smile*

Sometimes it is good to think about our doubt, which leads us to improve the right view and also the right intention.

I can not see one argument which can called helpful for the way.

Anyway, now you can ignore this post also in action not only in thoughts *smile* What a beautiful world. There is no will where there is no solution be found.

Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Wonky Badger on October 11, 2011, 10:02:21 pm
From the view of practicing your doubt it very legitimate and has its reason. Practicing is all about cessation of ignorance which can be attain by ignoring but by the opposite.

There is a saying: "More worse as ignorance is the ignoring of ignorance."

So all such kinds of giving ways to ignore are ways to keep people one self and others in the circle of birth and death. *smile*

Sometimes it is good to think about our doubt, which leads us to improve the right view and also the right intention.

I can not see one argument which can called helpful for the way.

Anyway, now you can ignore this post also in action not only in thoughts *smile* What a beautiful world. There is no will where there is no solution be found.



I do understand your point of view and I will personally not be ignoring any users, but at the same time I acknowledge that we all have our different ways and levels of practice and all have their own issues to work with, so if the ignore function can make even one fed-up member staying instead of leaving, I think it's worth having.
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: t on October 11, 2011, 10:13:38 pm
Thank you Wonky for another innovative step. This was also how E-Sangha had it done back then as I recalled...
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: heybai on October 11, 2011, 10:14:47 pm
Yes, helpful.  Very thoughtful of you.
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 11, 2011, 10:39:06 pm
Wonky you have so much compassion toward all here.  So you see them *smile* you make many happy, but I guess there is a different between pity and compassion.

"Ohhh, great..." now we are like the others again, now we are well and can practice. *smile*

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Maggots ([url]http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai/chah/insimpleterms.html[/url])

When we give rise to right view in our hearts, we can be at ease wherever we are. It's because we still have wrong views, still hold onto ideas that are poisonous, that we're not at ease. Holding on in this way is like being a maggot. Where it lives is filthy; its food is filthy. Its food isn't fit to be food — but it seems fitting to the maggot. Try taking a stick and flicking it out of the excrement where it's feeding, and see what happens. It'll wiggle and wriggle, eager to get back to the pile of excrement where it was before. Only then does it feel right.

It's the same with you monks and novices. You still have wrong views. Teachers come and advise you on how to have right view, but it doesn't feel right to you. You keep running back to your pile of excrement. Right view doesn't feel right because you're used to your old pile of excrement. As long as the maggot doesn't see the filth in where it's living, it can't escape. It's the same with us. As long as we don't see the drawbacks of those things, we can't escape from them. They make it difficult to practice.


Pretty  much better as the banner, for sure, but even there is this function the problem will be not solved and unsatisfactory will just search another way.
Why is it like that?

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Mange

The Buddha said, "Monks, did you see the jackal running around here in the evening? Did you see him? Standing still it suffered. Running around it suffered. Sitting down it suffered. Lying down it suffered. Going into the hollow of a tree, it suffered. Going into a cave, it felt ill at ease. It suffered because it thought, 'Standing here isn't good. Sitting isn't good. Lying down isn't good. This bush isn't good. This tree hollow isn't good. This cave isn't good.' So it kept running all the time. Actually, that jackal has mange. Its discomfort doesn't come from the bush or the tree hollow or the cave, from sitting, standing, or lying down. It comes from the mange."

You monks are the same. Your discomfort comes from your wrong views. You hold onto ideas that are poisonous and so you're tormented. You don't exert restraint over your senses, so you blame other things. You don't know what's going on inside you. When you stay here at Wat Nong Pah Pong, you suffer. You go to America and suffer. You go to London and suffer. You go to Wat Bung Wai and suffer. You go to every branch monastery and suffer. Wherever you go, you suffer. This comes from the wrong views that still lie within you. Your views are wrong and you hold onto ideas that are poisonous in your hearts. Wherever you go you suffer. You're like that jackal.

Once you recover from your mange, though, you can be at ease wherever you go: at ease out in the open, at ease in the wild. I think about this often and keep teaching it to you because this point of Dhamma is very useful.

"In Simple Terms: 108 Dhamma Similes", by Ajahn Chah, translated from the Thai by Thanissaro Bhikkhu. Access to Insight, 4 April 2011, [url]http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai/chah/insimpleterms.html[/url] ([url]http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/thai/chah/insimpleterms.html[/url]) . Retrieved on 11 October 2011.



This post can be ignored, so no need to worry about it. *smile*
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Caz on October 12, 2011, 07:48:17 am
Good job :)
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: pickledpitbull on October 13, 2011, 07:33:26 pm
Very useful.  Thanks, Wonky.
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 13, 2011, 08:51:43 pm
To ignore, yes *smile* or do you think it useful for practice? To keep the "I" alive it useful, yes.
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: CSEe on October 13, 2011, 08:58:26 pm
Just sharing . In culture , in sociaty , in business , in politics infact in most of my daily life ignoring certain people due to their beliefs , their action , their intention , their cultures , their lifestyles or even their habits......perhaps could be in certain way , in limited area is perhaps "usefull".

But.......this is Buddhism website , not political website , not commercial website , not porn site but a place where member should be free of all ego , all pride , all class , all "titles" , all conditions or knowledge..........a place of all member here sincerely to learn "knowing " Buddhism .

I will never "learn" if I think I already know, I will never know if I belief others dont know , I will never aware if I belief I am right and if I choose what I want to know I will never aware of what I dont know .

I will always be me ,of what I want to be , of whom I wish to be , of who I think to be and will never be whom I must be .

In Buddhism that I currently aware ...all source is a great source to learn , no matter from who or what .

If I ignor ,  I will have NO OPTION but to like what I choose .
If I free to have option to know , I will know something that I never know before .

In Buddhism that currently I aware off , all action is never wrong is only due to own awareness .
Thks
CSEe
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Gibbon on October 13, 2011, 09:06:22 pm
A very useful little function.  Thanks a lot for installing it.
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 13, 2011, 09:34:54 pm
I wonder how one would deceit to use it. You are right, actually from this point of view it could be useful. The intention to use it could be a reminder to me mindful on feelings *smile*

I heard that most feeling disappear if we watch them but may last a long time and come back and again if we are not mindful on them. Using the intention to ignore in this way is a very wise way *smile*
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: catmoon on October 14, 2011, 05:58:38 am
Many thanks Wonky, this was desperately needed. It also might be of benefit to allow each user to see a count of how many people have them on ignore.
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 14, 2011, 07:07:23 am
So a little punish tool? Without having little punishing effects this tool does really make no sense.

Image the pressure on has it he ignores someone. "Does he talk mad about me? Should i look what he writes? Maybe there is something useful?"

I guess we could overcome this pressure with some punishing effects, so we have a good reason to come this desires later on. *smile*

What about a "like" or "dislike" bottom at the avatar or at the post and one gets heaven or hell points. Would that be a great opportunity for interactive showing his ups and downs? Maybe we can also make it visible how much positive gifts one had given and how many negative. *smile* Wonderful world, we have always solutions to make it bearable to walk on as usual. *smile*
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: santamonicacj on October 14, 2011, 08:35:07 am
Many thanks Wonky, this was desperately needed. It also might be of benefit to allow each user to see a count of how many people have them on ignore.
...but without saying who they are!
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 14, 2011, 08:44:47 am
It was always usual that the hangman wears a mask. Yes, very important! *smile* We don't like to have unwholesome effects for our self.

You guys are really creative, even all this is not new. Seems to be natural in when we are attached to samsara. *smile*
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Gibbon on October 14, 2011, 02:22:48 pm
Many thanks Wonky, this was desperately needed. It also might be of benefit to allow each user to see a count of how many people have them on ignore.
...but without saying who they are!

What's the easiest way to look at this information?  It must be somewhere in the profile, is that so?  Or does it only appear if you are being "ignored'? 
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: retrofuturist on October 14, 2011, 05:48:11 pm
Thanks Wonky... it's a good function.

 :suit:

Metta,
Retro. :)
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 14, 2011, 05:55:20 pm
Looks like it becomes the hangman's "you are doing it for a good reason" motivation tread *smile*
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: retrofuturist on October 14, 2011, 06:08:28 pm
Greetings Hanzze,

This tool helps members tailor their forum experience according to their preferences... that is a good thing.

Metta,
Retro. :)
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 14, 2011, 06:14:56 pm
It remembers me on the believe in the success of worldly justice to change the samsara. *smile* Well some branches believe in practicing and also that Deva have it hard to understand Dhamma *smile*.

Maybe there are some who can share the benefits or ignoring maybe I did not get the message. Maybe pity contains some benefits.
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: retrofuturist on October 14, 2011, 06:17:59 pm
Greetings Hanzze,

I do not understand what you are trying to say - it sounds like monkey chatter.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2mffywz.gif)

I understand English is not your primary language - perhaps it would be good to speak as clearly and directly as you can, on the topic in question, without wry musings and wild tangents.

Metta,
Retro. :)
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 14, 2011, 06:57:40 pm
You could if you would like so, sometimes its the mental ignore bottom. *smile* "But even I do so, I have a desire left what he wrote"

If i would say it straight forward: "The possibility of ignoring on a platform which propose is to overcome ignoring is simply not very wise"

But that is natural if we but more effort into keeping our thing alive rather to have faith in Buddhas teachings and the way to get rid of the stress. *smile*

I guess there are already a plenty statements why it is maybe normal and usual in our daily life but, but is the intention to provide such platforms to give an alternative "safe" place or to give people real safety. Is it important to make them like our place or to give them a possibility to get rid of like and dislike?

I guess it is always good to not only watch our feelings, but also to prove our intention. *smile* For sure, if we are still on the way to built up something or to keep things alive in the way we like it, we are not able to see the whole thing of our intention.

While most do naturally agree with the function and other celebrating the hangman solacing, I thought to motivate some which which have already less doubt in the Dhamma. *smile*

So no worry its up to everyone, to ignore or even ignore the ignorance. *smile* One day we will get to see the place outside our castle and its effects in any way.

Wish you will be content with my try to explain it, but let me know the specific points of my poor "try to explain" which are stressful or ignorable. *smile*
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: ground on October 14, 2011, 10:12:40 pm
Just rely on the wisdom of others. Give it a try :wink1:

Kind regards
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 14, 2011, 10:19:54 pm
But if its not wisdom or it does not fit to our idea of wisdom, should we ignore it? *smile*
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: ground on October 14, 2011, 10:45:04 pm
But if its not wisdom or it does not fit to our idea of wisdom, should we ignore it? *smile*

Please do not speak in term of "we" and "our".

If something does not fit your idea of wisdom you can leave it as it is or ignore it if it helps you.

Avoiding is a natural approach of practice. It is wise to avoid what agitates the mind.

Kind regards
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 14, 2011, 11:12:17 pm
But if its not wisdom or it does not fit to our idea of wisdom, should we ignore it? *smile*

Please do not speak in term of "we" and "our".

If something does not fit your idea of wisdom you can leave it as it is or ignore it if it helps you.

Avoiding is a natural approach of practice. It is wise to avoid what agitates the mind.

Kind regards
Personally I prover the first person singular, but from experiences it leads often to be taken personally. Even so it is if we speak in the first person plural if a one has the attachment to a group, but I thought it might be not so discriminating if it could carry that one might speak of all, including one self. Somebody else could feel excluded and therefore harmed if some people are doing some personal conversations on a public platform. For sure sometimes that and sometimes that way is better. So I try another way, thanks for your advice. But I guess you would say that it is speculative. *smile*

Supposed there is one who thinks that avoiding is the way to attain inside, could it be that he mistakenly believe that ignoring is an aspect of avoiding? And could it be that this way of avoiding might have its roots in a nihilism believe.
If that could happen what could be answered if somebody asks the meaning of avoiding?  *smile*

Isn't there a qualitative different what should be avoided, and what should be not avoided?

If avoiding all what the mind is agitate would be the way, one would seek for renunciation. Would avoiding at the beginning lead us to this wisdom. Let me say, if one could not get aware of the cause of suffering, would he be able to understand the benefit if renunciation?

If it is so, what would be the propose of a place where our mind would get agitate? Would there any benefit (maybe the understanding of the way of renunciation) of such a place of agitating the mind?

*smile*
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: ground on October 14, 2011, 11:30:16 pm
Supposed there is one who thinks that avoiding is the way to attain inside, could it be that he mistakenly believe that ignoring is an aspect of avoiding? And could it be that this way of avoiding might have its roots in a nihilism believe.
If that could happen what could be answered if somebody asks the meaning of avoiding?  *smile*

Isn't there a qualitative different what should be avoided, and what should be not avoided?

If avoiding all what the mind is agitate would be the way, one would seek for renunciation. Would avoiding at the beginning lead us to this wisdom. Let me say, if one could not get aware of the cause of suffering, would he be able to understand the benefit if renunciation?

If it is so, what would be the propose of a place where our mind would get agitate? Would there any benefit (maybe the understanding of the way of renunciation) of such a place of agitating the mind?

*smile*
Many questions. With reference to others there are many "could-s" and "what if-s". Actually with reference to others these are endless but ... these "could-s" and "what if-s" are also completely irrelevant with reference to "my practice".

Nevertheless my answer to all these is: Wisdom will tell/show ... everybody's wisdom ... sooner or later ...

It is simply that dukkha is the best teacher of all. And dukkha never is wrong in what it teaches. Never.


Kind regards
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 14, 2011, 11:45:40 pm
Thanks for the short answer *smile*

I guess that is the reason why it is good to leave the palace but not to build another. So welcome to the jungle, the palace of release.
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: ground on October 15, 2011, 12:55:36 am
I guess that is the reason why it is good to leave the palace but not to build another.
Hear hear!

So welcome to the jungle, the palace of release.
Know what? "Palaces of imagination" often prove to be more stable than palaces made of stones. :wink1:

Kind regards
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 15, 2011, 01:06:53 am
Dhammapada 01 (free? download as mp3 for cellphone) (http://beemp3.com/download.php?file=6651585&song=Dhammapada-01) *smile*
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Spiny Norman on October 15, 2011, 03:23:52 am
It is wise to avoid what agitates the mind.

Very true.  I think I might ignore myself. :wink1:

Spiny
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: Hanzze on October 15, 2011, 03:48:23 am
Actually to ignore would be like that *smile*
Title: Re: Ignore user function installed
Post by: ground on October 15, 2011, 07:43:12 am
It is wise to avoid what agitates the mind.

Very true.  I think I might ignore myself. :wink1:

Spiny
:teehee:
That may be the final solution if done irreversibly. It is said that one prerequisite for this is serenity and to attain this serenity "smaller" and temporary avoidances seem to be necessary.


Kind regards
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