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Offline Lobster

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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2013, 12:25:52 am »
I joined this forum with the hope of learning and gaining knowledge and hopefully a few friends ...instead of a loving good living atmosphere i find to my horror that this forum can be the same as many other non buddhist forums i have joined (and since left) and that disappointed me how can i learn about the five precepts when some members on here who are well versed in them seem unable to practise them themselves .....i will hang about and learn as i can but feel my time here would be better spent elsewhere ...
yours all with disappointment
Phil :(

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Hi Phil,
New moderator, dharma troll, weakly human and question answering crustacean here . . .  :namaste:

You can and it is good practice set your preferences to ignore posters who do not measure up. I personally will not delete or moderate their examples of wrong or unskillful being - have enough of my own . . . and will be reporting any tendencies to delete the unskilful . . . usually beginning with my self . . .
You should not be surprised or disappointed that Buddhists are trying . . . in every sense of the word.

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Ask your questions, be friendly and remember if you want it easy and friendly and superficial . . . is that real?
Maybe this heavily moderated forum is more to your inclination?
http://www.buddhismwithoutboundaries.com/forum.php

Good luck
Be kind :dharma:

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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2013, 12:31:03 am »
thank you lobster :D i am already a member of the forum mentioned  and am aware it is heavily moderated lol i am simply wondering why some people cant self moderate ;)
i will attempt to intergrate myself into more posting and interactions whilst i am here

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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2013, 12:32:20 am »
Sorry if I've failed you, i've started a thread on the 4 noble truths, it didn't go far, I keep mentioning the huge importance of the 5 precepts, did you see my thread under therevada "a visit to the Cambodian Buddist temple" thats the words of a really great cambodian teacher, not me, on the most important things for a beginner. I'll bump the thread for you. hang on Im tryng to bring some basics to this "over the top of your head" buddhist forum. sincerely John. Ive got a two year old thread on another forum of the 5 precepts, Ill try to copy paste it, or rewrite it, your sincerity makes me want to cry, they know not what they do.....
to me, the signs of a successful practice are happiness and a cessation of suffering, buddhism often gives me this; not all the answers.

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Re: Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2013, 12:47:13 am »
Sorry if I've failed you, i've started a thread on the 4 noble truths, it didn't go far, I keep mentioning the huge importance of the 5 precepts, did you see my thread under therevada "a visit to the Cambodian Buddist temple" thats the words of a really great cambodian teacher, not me, on the most important things for a beginner. I'll bump the thread for you. hang on Im tryng to bring some basics to this "over the top of your head" buddhist forum. sincerely John. Ive got a two year old thread on another forum of the 5 precepts, Ill try to copy paste it, or rewrite it, your sincerity makes me want to cry, they know not what they do.....
John
You have not failed me or anyone ;D my aim was to join a forum where i could learn and make friends ...i am learning every day ....i learnt today that people can take responsibility for thier actions and try to change something that may nit be quite how or who they wish to be ....i only wish to be able to leave bickering wrong speech and unkind thoughts in the real world whilst i try to walk in Buddhas world ......i am a simple man trying to follow a simple life .....maybe computers are not a good idea lol i much prefer to see the people i chat toobut its not always an option .....i hope you dont feel my post was aimed speciffically at you it was not my intention

enjoy your day
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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2013, 01:26:02 am »

Maybe this heavily moderated forum is more to your inclination?
http://www.buddhismwithoutboundaries.com/forum.php



Thanks for your comments, Lobster. Weren't you banned from Dharma Wheel recently, by the way ?

 I prefer to finance and run a website which is well moderated - and if people don't like it then there are at least 6 other Buddhist websites to choose from as well as this one.

Have a lovely day  :pray:
« Last Edit: June 19, 2013, 01:31:34 am by dazzle.ment »

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Re: Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2013, 01:31:58 am »

Maybe this heavily moderated forum is more to your inclination?
http://www.buddhismwithoutboundaries.com/forum.php



Thanks for your comments, Lobster. Weren't you banned from Dhamma Wheel recently, by the way ?

 I prefer to finance and run a website which is well moderated - and if people don't like it then there are at least 6 other Buddhist websites to choose from as well as this one.

Have a lovely day  :pray:


No offence meant ...my sincere apologies if any taken
regards
Phil

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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2013, 06:46:18 am »
I joined this forum with the hope of learning and gaining knowledge and hopefully a few friends ...instead of a loving good living atmosphere i find to my horror that this forum can be the same as many other non buddhist forums i have joined (and since left) and that disappointed me how can i learn about the five precepts when some members on here who are well versed in them seem unable to practise them themselves .....i will hang about and learn as i can but feel my time here would be better spent elsewhere ...
yours all with disappointment
Phil :(

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Actually you already have learned something... maybe it was simply not that you like to learn and know, but just seeking "friends".
That is no problem here as well. Just join a opinion, and you will have "friends" like every else in this universe.

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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2013, 07:13:37 am »
Hanzze if you are implying that i am not intersted in learning buddha s teachi gs but simply looking for friends then i can inform you that is not the case .....in the interests of right speech i will tell you that you are an angry man who is ignorant and arrogant and seem to take great delight in upsetting people and trolling .....this will be my last input to you or any topic you may raise so i can live my life without the need to add you to my suffering ....
regards and all the best for your life
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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2013, 09:55:56 am »

Maybe this heavily moderated forum is more to your inclination?
http://www.buddhismwithoutboundaries.com/forum.php



Thanks for your comments, Lobster. Weren't you banned from Dharma Wheel recently, by the way ?

 I prefer to finance and run a website which is well moderated - and if people don't like it then there are at least 6 other Buddhist websites to choose from as well as this one.

Have a lovely day  :pray:


What is the difference between a form that censors and a "well moderated" forum? Here is an example from a well moderated forum. The moderator obviously has it in the for this person and acts more like a censor (North Korean perhaps?). This would never happen on an academic Buddhism forum.

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"You have been allowed to express your screwed up (as far as I am concerned) views but you took advantage of people by using references to materials that you have translated to suit your screwed up (as far as I am concerned) views. You got called on that. Then you had the audacity to refer people to your screwed up (as far as I am concerned) site whilst pretending it was not you (ie you tried to take advantage of the anonimity you thought you possessed). Now you have been called on that too."


Reminds me of E-Sangha.

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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2013, 10:10:22 am »

Maybe this heavily moderated forum is more to your inclination?
http://www.buddhismwithoutboundaries.com/forum.php


Thanks for your comments, Lobster. Weren't you banned from Dharma Wheel recently, by the way ?


Yes one moment I was eating cyber popcorn  :popcorn:
The next I was deemed to be talking nonsense . . . something I do to keep myself in practice, I speak fluent gibberish . . .

I was warned, judged and banned - I think for about a week.
I was trained by the dervish Nasrudin to talk nonsense . . . it is a methodology not familiar to some Buddhists . . .

It seems that the Master of Mirth and Chief of the Dervishes, Nasrudin, was once called to pontificate on the 'Nature of Allah' in the local mosque. Present were the many Imams and Doctors of the Islamic Law. Out of courtesy and because Nasrudin could not be counted on saying anything worthwhile, these illustrious guests explained and inspired the audience with their eloquence and wisdom.
Finally it was Nasrudin's turn to explain 'the Nature of Allah'.
"Allah ...", started Nasrudin impressively "is ..."
Nasrudin removed and held up an ovoid mauve vegetable from the folds of his turban, " ... an aubergine."
There was uproar at this blasphemy. When order was finally established, Nasrudin was reluctantly asked to explain his words.
"I conclude that everyone has spoken of what they do not know or have not seen. We can all see this aubergine. Is there anyone who can deny that Allah is manifest in all things?"
Nobody could.
"Very well," said Nasrudin, "Allah is an aubergine."

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Sufism/Nasrudin

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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #55 on: June 19, 2013, 11:05:03 am »
Hanzze if you are implying that i am not intersted in learning buddha s teachi gs but simply looking for friends then i can inform you that is not the case .....in the interests of right speech i will tell you that you are an angry man who is ignorant and arrogant and seem to take great delight in upsetting people and trolling .....this will be my last input to you or any topic you may raise so i can live my life without the need to add you to my suffering ....
regards and all the best for your life
Phil

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Did you ever consider that such could be simply your personal idea? Somebody tells you something that you don't like does not mean that he is angry or filled with ill will put simply may show you that you dislike something, which is at least an unwholesome mind-state for you. But would not touch me anyway.

I really do not suffer with you. If you like to suffer, do it. If you like to learn to find a way out of it, it might be a chance here. Of course avoid external influences as good as possible is the very first step of every trauma therapy as well, but that does not fix the problem. It will enter your mind form behind or from another side.

A good talk by the way:
Cutting New Paths in the Mind kindly transcripted by fivebells

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Re: Time for some change?
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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2013, 01:13:20 pm »
I am a new member here, but not new to practice...I have come here to learn and share...I am one of three administers of a pro-life, suicide prevention forum of 3000 members, over a million posts...we have reduced our 3 page guidelines to one phrase, "be kind" when judging if a thread/post should be deleted or a person be banned.  Clearly our members come with issues that might impede this; and we think our mission is to practice and model kindness.  Usually it is not the 'what' that is being bantered, it is the 'how', the way the person has presented the information.  Periodically, I post in our Information Section a request for kindness...I have found this to be very helpful

When reading the information of this forum, I find the archive system difficult, but not knowing Simple Machines (we are V-Bulletin with an adnon chat) I do not know your system. As a point of information, we started our dictionary in a permanent thread and members added to it.  That way the responsibility did not fall on any one person

Thank you for your generous sharing of your knowledge and understanding...it was quite helpful to me

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Re: Time for some change?
« Reply #58 on: July 06, 2013, 02:43:14 am »
Third, since the Buddha Basics subforum is meant to benefit beginners, I would suggest that we use clear language there. No speaking in koans or replying to a half-page post in only three words without, in that case, explaining it properly. Also I would like to see that members would abstain from fighting and bickering in the Buddha Basics forum.

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« Reply #59 on: July 07, 2013, 09:02:44 pm »
I thought of something else which might be helpful, providing mentorship...this might vary according to what a member is seeking, but establishing these types of relationships benefits both parties

 


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