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Offline ZenFred

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ISIS and the Iraq War: War is pure suffering
« on: August 15, 2014, 07:58:06 pm »
As an Iraq war vet (US Army) I try to avoid paying much attention to news from there. But tonight I happened to hear about the ISIS militants are capturing and selling people as slaves in the city of Tall Afar. Slavery and other war atrocities are bad enough, but the thought of the very city I fought a multi-day battle for and spent months "protecting" eight years ago is now in terrorist hands. All for what? My comrades killed, a close friend that died, watching people's homes blown to bits as their family begs us for mercy. For absolutely nothing. Makes me want to throw my military awards hanging on my bedroom wall in the trash.

How do I handle this? How can my practice help?

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Re: ISIS and the Iraq War: War is pure suffering
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 01:41:50 pm »
I am very sorry to hear of your troubles.  In terms of how you handle this, you can study and improve your understanding of the nature of reality and the fact that ISIS militants, slavery and so forth are merely appearances to an impure mind, they are not inherently existent out there somewhere separate from you mind, they are more like a 'real dream'.  A pure world appears to a pure mind and an impure world to an impure mind.  There is never going to be an end to the sufferings of Samsara until we attain enlightenment and take all sentient being out of our impure dream and into our pure dream. Of course, ISIS militants, slavery and so forth are not ultimate truths but they are conventional truths so you can try to do help on this level too in whatever practical and non-violent way you can.

So, use this to realise the faults of Samsara and increase your renunciation and effort to attain enlightenment.  This is how I understand that your practice can help your comrades, close friend and slaves being sold, as well as all other sentient living beings.  I hope that helps and that you are able to use these experiences to empower your practice. I hope you feel better about things soon.     

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Re: ISIS and the Iraq War: War is pure suffering
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 05:43:12 pm »
Thank you for your response which was exactly what I needed to be reminded. It is because of the trauma of experiencing combat that I discovered mindfullness and later Buddhism and have a practice at all. And you are very right the whole thing is an example of Samsara at its worse. I've seen how delusions of fighting for something honorable and heroic are in reality nothing but brutality.

I feel better today and it is through my practice I have found true peace, something I've never found anywhere else.

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Re: ISIS and the Iraq War: War is pure suffering
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2014, 01:50:46 pm »
As an Iraq war vet (US Army) I try to avoid paying much attention to news from there. But tonight I happened to hear about the ISIS militants are capturing and selling people as slaves in the city of Tall Afar. Slavery and other war atrocities are bad enough, but the thought of the very city I fought a multi-day battle for and spent months "protecting" eight years ago is now in terrorist hands. All for what? My comrades killed, a close friend that died, watching people's homes blown to bits as their family begs us for mercy. For absolutely nothing. Makes me want to throw my military awards hanging on my bedroom wall in the trash.

How do I handle this? How can my practice help?

Yep same here (Saladin province/jaazzera desert trikrit to baji)
Don't blame yourself Isis had about 7000 troops with small arms and pickup trucks VS 250,000 Iraqi troops with small arms, tanks, and aircraft.

The Iraqi army has always been the most cowardly military force I have ever had the diservice of fighting alongside.
Hell seriously..... The Iraqi soldiers in M1 Abrams TANKS RAN from guys with ak47s and pickup trucks.........
You can only help a guy out so much,eventually they have to take responsibility for themselves.

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Re: ISIS and the Iraq War: War is pure suffering
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2014, 12:17:50 pm »
the whole thing is an example of Samsara at its worse. I've seen how delusions of fighting for something honorable and heroic are in reality nothing but brutality.

I feel better today and it is through my practice I have found true peace, something I've never found anywhere else.

Sounds like you really have this realisation in your heart. This is wonderful that we share this understanding and I hope that you are progressively feeling better for more of the time. Good luck with you practice  :wink1:

 


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