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Re: shoting in usa, Representative Gabrielle Giffords
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2011, 11:37:49 pm »
Can we have a non Right Wing Alex Jones source please?  :cheesy:

lol Alex jones is so far anti-right wing its ridiculos.

Nah Don't be fooled.

When it comes down to a choice, Alex Jones would vote Republican.   Look at when he emotionally breaks up, he let loose hints of the Right Winger he hides underneath.

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Re: shoting in usa, Representative Gabrielle Giffords
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2011, 09:26:57 am »
Can we have a non Right Wing Alex Jones source please?  :cheesy:

lol Alex jones is so far anti-right wing its ridiculos.

Nah Don't be fooled.

When it comes down to a choice, Alex Jones would vote Republican.   Look at when he emotionally breaks up, he let loose hints of the Right Winger he hides underneath.

I've never seen alex favor either side, as he always says that both parties are just a whitewash.
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Re: shoting in usa, Representative Gabrielle Giffords
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2011, 10:50:34 am »
It was a tragic event, but in a way unsurprising given the US gun culture and irresponsible comments by US politicians.

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I'm with you - not surprised.  Benumbed might be more apropos.

Long with Spiny's mention of the "gun culture" and irresponsible commentary by politicians and pundits alike, it all get mixed in to a culture saturated with various forms and levels of violence that are status quo.  With that violence comes a tendency to demonize the "different", thus dehumanizing them and making easier to perpetrate violence against them without remorse.

I tend to place the blame on the fall of the Soviet Union.  I remember watching the Berlin Wall being torn down and thinking that I was watching our last, great "enemy'" disappear.  I remember thinking, without that enemy to focus our fear and angst on, we would turn against ourselves instead.  Today, I think it really sucks to be so right at times.

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Re: shoting in usa, Representative Gabrielle Giffords
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2011, 01:32:06 pm »
A mentally-ill Human bought a gun, bullets and formed a plan. His friends/associates all say he didn't watch news or listen to radio programs.  He did hang-out on Internet gaming sites and forums .... :lipsseald: :eek: He formed unique views on life and the World he perceived around him.
 
He the chose to go to a public event, pull a gun, and beginning shooting people.
 
He is to blame, no one else, nothing else. He made conscious decisions, although certainly deluded or twisted in some form.  Actually, he sounds just like every other Human enmeshed in the suffering World or their own creation. Perhaps he acted on his perceptions more than others would act on their own.
 
All the attention on radio, media, pundits, politics, politicians, bloggers is insulting to those who died, were injured and the families, to include the family of the shooter. But no surprise, it is nothing if not an opportunity for everyone to fluff up and feed their Ego by showing what experts they are on subjects they know nothing about. Call it Life, as manipulated by Humans .... and yet, the Universe goes on without a second glance at all the idiocy ... not missing a beat ..... no pause whatsoever ..... no cares or worries .... Perhaps there is a lesson ....
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Re: shoting in usa, Representative Gabrielle Giffords
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2011, 08:42:48 am »
Interesting analysis indicating that political assassins do not kill for politics but for attention (or I would say for Ego/Self feeding).
 
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Re: shoting in usa, Representative Gabrielle Giffords
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2011, 07:23:11 am »
The blame game over the tragic events in Arizona began immediately. Predictably, one side blames the harsh discourse of the other, and the other side takes umbrage at what will now be famously (if grossly inaccurately) called ‘blood libel’.

Demonizing political opponents is certainly an unwelcome development, if not a recent one in American politics. Labeling the ideas, words, and actions of our opponents ‘evil’ perhaps does make it easier for those who are mentally unstable to seek ‘second amendment remedies’ for their grievances. Thus, it is understandable that many well-meaning persons would attempt to turn this tragedy into a new beginning for civility in America.

Civility is defined as formal or perfunctory politeness, and refraining from intentional discourtesy. While this may be a good start among persons who feel animosity toward each other, civility does not address the fundamental emotion of aversion which lies at the root of all violence. It merely masks and mollifies its expression.

Civility cannot take root in a society that grievously mistreats humans and animals, both here and abroad. It is not consonant with the law of cause and effect to expect a harvest of peace while sowing the seeds of violence.

What we need in America and elsewhere is to cultivate compassion —the desire to eliminate or reduce the suffering of others. Until we can see that all sentient beings (not only humans) want happiness, but do not always know how best to attain it, we will ascribe evil intent to some of them, and virtue (however defined) to others.

And although it is perhaps easier to feel compassion for the dead and wounded in Tucson than for the gunman and his putative inciters, until we can do so we will not have peace in our hearts, in our communities, or in this world.

Compassion does not require acquiescence with unskillful acts. We must do our best to heal the sick, nourish the young, protect the weak, love the beautiful, serve the good, and honor the wise, according to our highest wisdom. But we must also remove from our hearts the desire to visit retribution or inflict harm on others.

May those who died in Tucson attain the Pure Land.

May those who were wounded recover their health and cultivate forgiveness.

May those who committed or incited others to violence repent and mend their ways.

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