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Offline daimond

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wikileaks?
« on: December 18, 2010, 08:14:51 am »
well, we a bit be quit isn't it how we feeling toward wikileaks and julian assange and what happened from australia government who sold the citizen live and right to his master?
and how about canadian government who sold their citizen data to usg(usa government)

Offline J. McKenna

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Re: wikileaks?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 02:52:08 pm »
Governments are made up of just people. People are imperfect and prone to unexplainable behavior, generally in their own interests. Politicians have always been been "what's in it for me(us)?"
 
Earthshaking revelations?? Nah, no surprises here, just people being humans.
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Offline Quiet Heart

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Re: wikileaks?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 10:32:50 pm »
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To make it clear...I am a WikiLeaks supporter.
I have a carreer of over 30 years working for and with the U.S. military and government. I'm now retired.
I am absolutely sure that far to many people do not know what decisions are made by politicians and their governments for them...because it is "in their best interests" ...without either their knowledge or consent.
Anything that makes it harder for governments to do that is in the public interest.
That's my opinion.
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Re: wikileaks?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2010, 09:01:47 am »
Anything that makes it harder for governments to do that is in the public interest.

Was it Frank Zappa who said something like: "These days it's all secrecy and no privacy"?

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Offline swampflower

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Re: wikileaks?
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2010, 01:27:51 pm »
Governments are made up of just people. People are imperfect and prone to unexplainable behavior, generally in their own interests. Politicians have always been been "what's in it for me(us)?"
 
Earthshaking revelations?? Nah, no surprises here, just people being humans.

I am guessing you mean "Governments are only made up of people"  Not to many "just" people in government!  Hahaha.

Anyway...HATS OFF TO ASSANGE!!!  Long live freedom of speech.

Here is what the governments & corporation want :lipsseald: :lipsseald: :lipsseald: :lipsseald:

But Buddhists are admonished about involvement in politics, aren't they?
Om Tare Tutare Svaha

"All that we are is the result of what we have thought.  The mind is everything.  What we think we become." Buddha Sakyamuni

Offline J. McKenna

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Re: wikileaks?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 05:56:22 pm »
Yes, why don't we all hae full disclosure. Tell us your bank account numbers, credit scores, family secrets. ..... .... .... ...
 
 
No?
 
 
Might damage your personnel privacy or security?
 
 
The "people" have no right to know such secrets about government.  Secrecy is written into the US Constitution and was well-documented by Sun Tzu in his treatise on strategy....

Go on, post your accounts be "transparent" be "open". Want someone else to do it for you???
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Offline Temporary Sand

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2011, 12:46:43 pm »
You lose that right to secrets when you take troops off your sovereign soil for reasons other than defense.

Wikileaks is a journalistic organisation. It receives private info that other people give it. Wikileaks aren't the Leakers, they are a conduit to the publishers.

Remember Freedom of the Press? Why is that important?

Freedom of the Press is resented in all governments who engage in corrupt practices.

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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2011, 07:27:36 pm »
Freedom of the Press isn't an allowance to violate laws of the sovereign. It is a prohibition of the State controlling or banning the press. In the US Constitution, secrecy is also authorized.  There is no loss of right to secrecy due to any action taken. There is a risk of loosing what one wants to protect.

Wikileaks isn't a "journalistic" organization except by their own claims. They merely regurgitate the documents illegally transmitted to them. The papers they deal the information to are "journalists"; Wikileaks is just another source, a guy in greasy trench coat in the park at night looking for attention and appreciation. Of late, they have become more Whineyleaks then anything else, blaming everyone for the consequences of the actions they knowingly took.

Still waiting to get those account numbers ..... I have a Right to Know, you know??
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