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Confession for layman - "forum-uposatha"
« on: October 19, 2011, 04:59:48 am »
Swinging trow the jungle I just grasped this branch (thought):

In Christianity there is the possibility for confession which has from a psychological view much benefits even it might be misused as a possibility for excuse.

We have similar a similar technique in the weekly patimokkha procedure every full moon and new moon where the Monk rules will be recited and the one big part is "Together let us purify ourselves and do the uposatha"

On this happening one needs to declare if he had offend a role and also all others are able to declare a offend of others.

The main propose is not to judge each other but to make the community and every participator purer and to get rid of feeling of guilt as well as some quarrels.

I am not sure if such a technique for a lay community exists, but I think it could be very useful to lift up the whole community and it is also for the single participator an challenge as well as a possibility to walk on.

What do you think, would it be possible to make such a system maybe for a internet group of lay people as well?

It would be possible to adopt some community rules and make a 2 weeks "forum - uposatha"

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Re: Confession for layman - "forum-uposatha"
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 07:36:02 am »
Just sharing . Is one of great way for possible moving to a greater awareness . As admiting own previous action is of low awareness comparing to own new awareness is a great way of self awakening .

As in life , a sincere apologize , a sincere cry of sadden over own action , a sincere slap on own face is also a great way , admit own actions is great way to move to greater awareness .

My key word is always " aware to be awake" as I must always aware of all my action and intention and learn to be awake resulted from my action & intention .

Lets me be the first to start............


For me ..right now in this website .....I have reason to believe perhaps due to my shortcoming or the way I write my posting or of my views had caused so-so many mamber here develope some "negetive" emotions even anger towards me.....as I might be the cause or limitation for others to learn Buddhism here .

I sincerely wish all to know that is never my intention to influence others of my views but sincerely wish to share and debate with others to learn Buddhism.

I offer my atmost sincere friendship to all and sincerely apologize for all my shortcoming .
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Re: Confession for layman - "forum-uposatha"
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 03:03:48 am »
I sincerely wish all to know that is never my intention to influence others of my views but sincerely wish to share and debate with others to learn Buddhism.
I offer my atmost sincere friendship to all and sincerely apologize for all my shortcoming .

It would be helpful if you could keep your posts on topic ( relevant to the discussion ) and be more mindful of what you are writing. 

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Re: Confession for layman - "forum-uposatha"
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 03:11:44 am »
I sincerely wish all to know that is never my intention to influence others of my views but sincerely wish to share and debate with others to learn Buddhism.
I offer my atmost sincere friendship to all and sincerely apologize for all my shortcoming .

It would be helpful if you could keep your posts on topic ( relevant to the discussion ) and be more mindful of what you are writing. 

Spiny

Thanks , your message noted perhaps I do something off topic but sorry sir I always aware what I write .

Thks again .
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Re: Confession for layman - "forum-uposatha"
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 09:18:10 pm »
... I always aware what I write .

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Re: Confession for layman - "forum-uposatha"
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2011, 10:09:17 pm »
For sure that confession thing is not an easy one and need a lot of self discipline *smile* It's also useful to get rid of the desire to keep an avatar alive.

Maybe it is possible to invite a preceptor.

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Re: Confession for layman - "forum-uposatha"
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2011, 12:47:21 am »
... I always aware what I write .

 :cheesy:

Hi TMingyur , I will not try to think what is your message but allow me to clarify my statement .

When I say " I aware what I write " , this mean that my writing is solely based on my awareness of all my compassion , desire , emotions , ego , pride , love etc and write it with an awareness that I will not regret of what I write since I based on all emotions NOT solely on my ego or my desire or my pride .

Lets say if someone say what I write is wrong and if I reply simply to defend my views without learning his accusation or just to show my anger or my pride..........I am actually NOT AWARE of what I write and I will regret it as I move to higher awareness.........

I hope this clear any " cloud" here .

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Re: Confession for layman - "forum-uposatha"
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2011, 03:54:11 am »
... I always aware what I write .


 :cheesy:


Hi TMingyur , I will not try to think what is your message but allow me to clarify my statement .

When I say " I aware what I write " , this mean that my writing is solely based on my awareness of all my compassion , desire , emotions , ego , pride , love etc and write it with an awareness that I will not regret of what I write since I based on all emotions NOT solely on my ego or my desire or my pride .

So you are actually confirming the ordinary contact -> feeling -> papanca, perception etc. leading to applied and sustained thought which burst out into speaking/writing.
In this sense everybody is "aware what they write".

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Having first directed one's thoughts and made an evaluation, one then breaks out into speech. That's why directed thought & evaluation are verbal fabrications.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.044.than.html


Lets say if someone say what I write is wrong and if I reply simply to defend my views without learning his accusation or just to show my anger or my pride..........I am actually NOT AWARE of what I write and I will regret it as I move to higher awareness.........

Ah I see, you are adding a type of mindfulness to being "aware what one writes". In this sense not everybody is "aware what they write".


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Re: Confession for layman - "forum-uposatha"
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2011, 06:37:16 am »
What do you think, would it be possible to make such a system maybe for a internet group of lay people as well?

I think this would be more appropriate for a sangha which meets face-to-face, but I'd be interested to hear what other members think.

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Re: Confession for layman - "forum-uposatha"
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2011, 06:54:45 am »
I think this would be more appropriate for a sangha which meets face-to-face, ...

I agree.

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