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Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« on: July 15, 2017, 10:22:22 pm »
I just saw Buddha, a television show supervised by Dr. Modi, on Netflix Canada, and it brought me to tears, because they are good at that.

Really enjoyed it, and it can help to give people some good context as well.

People these days love to "de-mythologize" everything and really suck out the life from a story, even losing the additional symbols and meanings and references when saying "it is literal, there are no symbols".

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Re: Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2017, 06:16:51 am »
I just saw Buddha, a television show supervised by Dr. Modi, on Netflix Canada, and it brought me to tears, because they are good at that.

Really enjoyed it, and it can help to give people some good context as well.

People these days love to "de-mythologize" everything and really suck out the life from a story, even losing the additional symbols and meanings and references when saying "it is literal, there are no symbols".

So true.  People strive to reduce it to facts,  science and history and suck out all the truth and beauty.

These are usually men who have a hard time scoring and really need to.    They are also afraid to take that step into the intangible, and read between the lines.  These are typically Americans who voted for Trump.

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Re: Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2017, 11:59:13 am »
Fascinating rhetoric here on the forum of "truth and beauty ". Thanks for the insight.
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Re: Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2017, 08:23:23 pm »
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People strive to reduce it to facts,  science and history and suck out all the truth and beauty.
Question is whether there is truth in the first place that may be sucked out.  Or is it just that language may be used appropriately or inappropriately from one's own individual perspective that is confused with 'truth' and 'non-truth' resp.? Scientific use of language may correspond better to the directly perceptible.
Beauty is attractive for the gods of the desire realm isn't it?  :wink1:

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Re: Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2017, 09:41:55 pm »
Hi ground. I'd like to know more about you. What is your story? Are you a Buddhist or self identifying as something else or what? Lets talk about it.

You are one of the major active posters at this time, there are a few more as well, I'd like to engage each one and learn what they are all about.

I think that I may have some things ti say which may interest some people or inspire them, but even if such does not occur, I say things that I myself read as well and enjoy and learn from.

I've described throughout my few posts on this forum since joining a kind of Buddhism which is very simplistic and focused mainly on very understandable ethics.

I do not believe in time, chronology, or any of those things. I believe in spontaneous generation and instant experience which then includes in that moment whatever story, that we are this or that or so and so and did this or that or this is our past etc. Yet that is just a minor point, I don't or can't really enjoy Buddhism if it was just stuff like that, luckily it is not just stuff like that, there is a lot of weird and wonderful stuff that has been produced and can be produced in a Buddhist sort of context or with Buddhist sorts of references. My ancestors have long been involved in the Dharma as they were teachers of it in the Ancient parts of the world it was spreading out from. So for me this Dharma does not feel so much like a crisis of identity or something any organization or authority or scriptural interpretation can strip from me, and why should anyone be intent on stripping me or anyone of the Dharma?

It was considered a great achievement to enter long periods of pleasure, but I don't think you really believe in any of that stuff.

For me, that stuff is 100% possible and real, I have no doubts regarding such things because anything can be generated in an instant and appear totally true and we may even say "oh yes of course" and take it for granted and as mundane no matter how absurd or instantaneous it may be.

This is why I do not view the story of Buddha in such a way as if I could ever access it "really happening". The story is real, the story is present now as it is, we look for what truth it holds as far as we are able to utilize as much as we can from it. It is no different to me than stories about Napoleon Bonaparte. I was not there, I only know this Napoleon, the Napoleon of the stories, and I take from it what I can, I know those stories can happen and I also know they are full of utility for the adept and attentive.

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Re: Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2017, 09:44:23 pm »
My own life is full of the mystical, full of symbolism, even the story of my birth, this sort of thing is not that unusual really.

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Re: Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2017, 09:45:27 pm »
We live out extremely weird tales, travel in flying machines, and then scoff at everything else.

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Re: Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2017, 02:29:55 am »
People these days love to "de-mythologize" everything...

Buddhism is saturated with later-day mythology, which becomes most apparent when studying the original Buddhist scriptures.

For example, the story about Siddhartha sneaking out of the palace with his chariot driver and seeing four signs of a sick, old & dead man and a monk; and then sneaking out of the palace while his wife & child were sleeping; is mythology.

The original scriptures report Siddhartha was pondering sickness, aging & death while living in three palaces and left home observing tears stream down the faces of his parents.

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Re: Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 04:34:09 pm »
Yeah. Are you a purist who feels a little tinge of disgust at what appear to be lies and inventions? Me too really. Except the historicity seems almost unreachable to me. We can't confirm the Sutta version, or even what is outside our room on the other side of a wall. None of that matters much to me so long as we are honest about it, and the most honest approach might be that this is just information, stuff, ideas, things we experience or imagine, which may be used as tools for various things, may be used towards benefit even potentially. So from latter Buddhism or earlier, from other religions or tv shows or videos, a sound heard on the street might trigger some useful idea or whatever. Sometimes even the pleasures of myths can contain insightful reference or content regardless of what "really happened" or if anything happened at all, what we have now is here to use in ways which might help us and others or be a trouble.

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Re: Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2017, 06:20:50 pm »
We can't confirm the Sutta version...

True. But the sutta version is much more logical & probable than the mythology.  :namaste:

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Re: Buddha on Netflix Canada, first episode!
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 06:30:43 pm »
Yeah, I consider them both to be information that we can utilize. I can not say that even so and so really definitely did such and such. It can actually be relaxing to disregard the reality of things while simultaneously accepting the reality of things as they appear only now as we experience them currently. Information. Also, many people do experience the delusional seeming or mythological seeming in very direct ways as well or "realistic" or "literal" ways, and in regard to spontaneous generation of information, any sort of crazy or absurd thing can occur. For example, the idea that "we have noses that breathe air and there are flying things with beady little eyes that have long tubes which suck on flowers" are all baseless, absurd, crazy, except we see our faces, we see butterflies, there are sciences and systems and whole books regarding these things and models to explain them, all based on nothing, all entirely absurd. This is just one sort of thing which can be generated and people say to one another "well of course" and any sort of strange thing can be sporadically generated and people might have in that blast also the information that "yes of course, it is so, it has always been this way!", even though it makes no sense, even if it had no reference, even though it is really just silly but we have come to accept it as a fact of life or the way things are now.

So considering all that, I would say the best one might do is to see how things appear now and how we might utilize all the available resources, the suttas, the sutras, the whatevers of the world we experience as of now, without much concern or regard of things like how much sense it really makes, since we breathe pointless air, through a pointy nose, on a "face", completely absurdly yet we accept these things and talk of histories.

Haha, as I give this speech, a guy is walking outside talking about all this stuff, talking about "fish and vertebrae" and all the absurd things, and he is listing them off. He is what people would probably call a "crazy person".

 


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