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Offline Karma Dondrup Tashi

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Re: Emptiness question
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2011, 08:08:08 am »
"Not existing from its own side" is not real emptiness, just conceptual emptiness. If real emptiness were that easy to realize all the relativists would be enlightened masters. Conceptual emptiness is just something which is the first step up, something a little easy for the mind to let go of, as an upaya. "Things have no inherent existence" is merely one example. The real emptiness is beyond concept, not existent not nonexistent not both not neither.
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Offline Will

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Re: Emptiness question
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2011, 08:59:04 am »
I am still inclined to think there may be an unseen reality causing our sense perceptions.  I don't understand how so many teachers and schools have eliminated the possibility. How do they know that which is unknowable? It looks to me like they are arbitrarily deciding an undecideable question.

Since our perceptive apparatus is only sensitive to certain ranges of vibrations and insensitive to all the other ranges, we cannot know fully with our present senses. So, if this is what some gurus mean, they are correct.  Only cultivation of our higher wisdom, as a bodhisattva, arhat or buddha will reveal the unknown fully.
The bodhi resolve is like empty space, this because its marvelous qualities are boundlessly vast.  Avatamsaka Sutra, ch. 39

 


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